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@davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

you can't be a ghost

and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

@benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

Have you worked inside a political party?

@benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

@davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

i've done political work

are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

come on man

all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

@benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

100%

Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

@benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

I know little about Mamdani. I have never worked with him to know how he handles people and situations. Winning an election is not a sign of good character and capacity for governance. I've seen too many turkeys get elected, but they have a good media image.

He could be another Obama--and this would be good. But we need to move past a political messiah fixing things for us.

@Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

@TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I think the rot is partisanship.

Partisanship got us into our gerrymandered lesser-of-two-evils shitshow.

I don't see how partisanship for an imaginary party that is spelled "d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t" but acts like lefties is going to reform jack shit.

Burn down all parties and just vote for lefties if you like lefties. If your ballot just has assholes on it, do whatever you feel you can live with.

@davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

i've done political work

are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

come on man

all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

@benroyce Just a note: I do like your empowering anger, your thoughts and engagement, and your patience here.
People like you give me hope for a change.

@davevolek@mastodon.social @eswag @Pepijn

@grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

oh yeah, parties suck

unfortunately they are real

merely saying "there shouldn't be political parties" sounds good. and is true. but it doesn't change a damn thing

so we have to work with the shit we got

it's like saying "war is bad"

no shit

but when there's russians marching tanks over your border, that sentiment doesn't mean much. you have to fight them

so we have to engage on political parties. because it's great? no. because it is what it is

@benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn I respectfully disagree.

As far as I can tell, parties are the storefronts where big money donors go shopping to buy corrupt politicians.

I will not support a political party. I will support the good candidates that I trust. People - with ideas - not parties.

There's nothing about political parties in my Constitution, and that's good enough for me.

We may have to disagree about this.

@NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

thank you

i'm simply a hothead and a loudmouth

which is not a virtue

but it might be something like a virtue in a shit world such as it is

any one who isn't angry isn't paying attention. so therefore all there is that i'm doing of any value is articulating anger. the tragedy would be is that is all i do. so the idea is to do that anger articulating *effectively*: actually change things

let's see not only how i can do that, but how all of us can do that

@NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

thank you

i'm simply a hothead and a loudmouth

which is not a virtue

but it might be something like a virtue in a shit world such as it is

any one who isn't angry isn't paying attention. so therefore all there is that i'm doing of any value is articulating anger. the tragedy would be is that is all i do. so the idea is to do that anger articulating *effectively*: actually change things

let's see not only how i can do that, but how all of us can do that

@Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

@benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

@grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

but we don't disagree

i agree with you 100%

you say you'll support good candidates

great

me too

so when i say "take over the democratic party" what am i really saying?

getting good candidates forward

that the vehicle is a party is merely a rational tactic, it isn't the destruction of all that is good in the world

and if the candidates are good enough, and we get ranked choice voting from them, we can start talking about killing political parties

@Pepijn @benroyce

If his opponents in the US don't kick out him and his cronies, we are finished. The US is so powerful, especially militarily, that even with determination we could not repel an onslaught.

Caught between two authoritarian behemoths, the rational choice would be to have some form of stand-off alliance with the superpower which is committed to green energy and science.

@grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

but we don't disagree

i agree with you 100%

you say you'll support good candidates

great

me too

so when i say "take over the democratic party" what am i really saying?

getting good candidates forward

that the vehicle is a party is merely a rational tactic, it isn't the destruction of all that is good in the world

and if the candidates are good enough, and we get ranked choice voting from them, we can start talking about killing political parties

@benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn It's easy to agree when the ballot has good candidates that just happen to be Democrats. But I think we'll end up disagreeing over voting for shitty Democrats vs shitty Republicans.

Personally, I'm getting really tired of taste-testing the shit from both candidates to pick the one that's microscopically less shitty.

But let's think happy thoughts and pray that the DNC won't ever again run two shitty presidential candidates without a primary like 2024.