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  • erickasimone@mastodon.socialE erickasimone@mastodon.social

    @benroyce @Pepijn@mastodon.online this person has a history of being weird in this topic. DNE.

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    #32

    @ErickaSimone

    fuck

    thanks for the heads up

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

      "that cannot be overcome"

      and what does mamdani mean to you?

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      #33

      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

      He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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      • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

        He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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        #34

        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

        then *you* accept the status quo

        we don't

        there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

        but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

        i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

        articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

          then *you* accept the status quo

          we don't

          there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

          but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

          i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

          articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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          #35

          @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

          In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

          After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

          Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

          We need a new way.

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @eswag @Pepijn

            get 50 #mamdani s in the #primaries2026

            absolutely NO american leftist has an excuse not to vote in the primaries

            none

            third party doesn't work. not voting is self-serving self-defeating idiocy

            we take over the #democrats

            it is a requirement or you need to shut up about what you say you care about forever, because you do not care if you do not vote in the #primaries

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            #36

            @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

            100%

            Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

            We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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            • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

              In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

              After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

              Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

              We need a new way.

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              #37

              @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

              well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

              you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

              it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

              so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

              don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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              • grammasaurus@mastodon.socialG grammasaurus@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @phl I bet I’m not the only American to just now be hearing about this. WTF?!?!

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                #38

                @grammasaurus @benroyce @phl I mean yes but it's 100% on-brand.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                  well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

                  you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

                  it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

                  so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

                  don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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                  #39

                  @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                  The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

                  A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

                  Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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                  • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                    The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

                    A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

                    Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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                    #40

                    @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                    when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                    which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                    you can't be a ghost

                    and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                      when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                      which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                      you can't be a ghost

                      and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                      #41

                      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                      Have you worked inside a political party?

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                      • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                        Have you worked inside a political party?

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                        #42

                        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                        i've done political work

                        are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                        come on man

                        all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                        can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                        or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                        i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                        • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                          @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

                          I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

                          What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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                          #43

                          @Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                            i've done political work

                            are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                            come on man

                            all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                            can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                            or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                            i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                            #44

                            @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                            I know little about Mamdani. I have never worked with him to know how he handles people and situations. Winning an election is not a sign of good character and capacity for governance. I've seen too many turkeys get elected, but they have a good media image.

                            He could be another Obama--and this would be good. But we need to move past a political messiah fixing things for us.

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                            • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                              100%

                              Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

                              We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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                              @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I think the rot is partisanship.

                              Partisanship got us into our gerrymandered lesser-of-two-evils shitshow.

                              I don't see how partisanship for an imaginary party that is spelled "d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t" but acts like lefties is going to reform jack shit.

                              Burn down all parties and just vote for lefties if you like lefties. If your ballot just has assholes on it, do whatever you feel you can live with.

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                              • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                I know little about Mamdani. I have never worked with him to know how he handles people and situations. Winning an election is not a sign of good character and capacity for governance. I've seen too many turkeys get elected, but they have a good media image.

                                He could be another Obama--and this would be good. But we need to move past a political messiah fixing things for us.

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                                #46

                                @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                yeah winning election doesn't decide the verdict on things, but of course, winning elections is necessary before you do one single damn thing, good, bad, or pointless

                                so again: if you crap on mamdani, when he's only been in an office a week, i will speak against you. you could be right, you could be wrong, but you certainly do not know, anymore than i know. i don't know better than you, but i know you don't know better than me. nobody knows the future

                                that's it

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                                • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                                  @Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

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                                  #47

                                  @lordkhan @Pepijn @benroyce There were always people that the US was prepared to do bad things to in the pursuit of its own interests. All that's changed is we find ourselves transitioning from the exempt list to that list.

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                                  • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                                    @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I think the rot is partisanship.

                                    Partisanship got us into our gerrymandered lesser-of-two-evils shitshow.

                                    I don't see how partisanship for an imaginary party that is spelled "d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t" but acts like lefties is going to reform jack shit.

                                    Burn down all parties and just vote for lefties if you like lefties. If your ballot just has assholes on it, do whatever you feel you can live with.

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                                    #48

                                    @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                                    oh yeah, parties suck

                                    unfortunately they are real

                                    merely saying "there shouldn't be political parties" sounds good. and is true. but it doesn't change a damn thing

                                    so we have to work with the shit we got

                                    it's like saying "war is bad"

                                    no shit

                                    but when there's russians marching tanks over your border, that sentiment doesn't mean much. you have to fight them

                                    so we have to engage on political parties. because it's great? no. because it is what it is

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                      i've done political work

                                      are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                                      come on man

                                      all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                                      can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                                      or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                                      i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                                      #49

                                      @benroyce Just a note: I do like your empowering anger, your thoughts and engagement, and your patience here.
                                      People like you give me hope for a change.

                                      @davevolek@mastodon.social @eswag @Pepijn

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                                      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                        @benroyce Just a note: I do like your empowering anger, your thoughts and engagement, and your patience here.
                                        People like you give me hope for a change.

                                        @davevolek@mastodon.social @eswag @Pepijn

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                                        #50

                                        @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

                                        thank you

                                        i'm simply a hothead and a loudmouth

                                        which is not a virtue

                                        but it might be something like a virtue in a shit world such as it is

                                        any one who isn't angry isn't paying attention. so therefore all there is that i'm doing of any value is articulating anger. the tragedy would be is that is all i do. so the idea is to do that anger articulating *effectively*: actually change things

                                        let's see not only how i can do that, but how all of us can do that

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                                          oh yeah, parties suck

                                          unfortunately they are real

                                          merely saying "there shouldn't be political parties" sounds good. and is true. but it doesn't change a damn thing

                                          so we have to work with the shit we got

                                          it's like saying "war is bad"

                                          no shit

                                          but when there's russians marching tanks over your border, that sentiment doesn't mean much. you have to fight them

                                          so we have to engage on political parties. because it's great? no. because it is what it is

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                                          #51

                                          @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn I respectfully disagree.

                                          As far as I can tell, parties are the storefronts where big money donors go shopping to buy corrupt politicians.

                                          I will not support a political party. I will support the good candidates that I trust. People - with ideas - not parties.

                                          There's nothing about political parties in my Constitution, and that's good enough for me.

                                          We may have to disagree about this.

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