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  • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

    @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

    I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

    What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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    #24

    @Pepijn

    if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

    this is where i place all my anger as an american

    all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

    absolutely infuriates me

    we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

    eswag@dju.socialE erickasimone@mastodon.socialE capnthommo@c.imC theothersimo@mastodon.socialT 4 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @Pepijn

      if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

      this is where i place all my anger as an american

      all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

      absolutely infuriates me

      we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

      eswag@dju.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #25

      @benroyce @Pepijn

      The US also has primaries that don't get the attention they deserve. The Democrats are an appalling neoliberal far-right party, in the main, and the US's choice of Trump as an act of desperation is understandable from the POV of the status quo being intolerable.

      The Wolf PAC's introduction of AOC, Rashida Tlaib etc. is what should be happening wholesale.

      Without this, the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #26

        @Pepijn

        2004 and facebook and 2006 and twitter

        they didn't invent bigotry, but they supercharged it as a political force

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        • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

          @benroyce @Pepijn

          The US also has primaries that don't get the attention they deserve. The Democrats are an appalling neoliberal far-right party, in the main, and the US's choice of Trump as an act of desperation is understandable from the POV of the status quo being intolerable.

          The Wolf PAC's introduction of AOC, Rashida Tlaib etc. is what should be happening wholesale.

          Without this, the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive.

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          #27

          @eswag @Pepijn

          get 50 #mamdani s in the #primaries2026

          absolutely NO american leftist has an excuse not to vote in the primaries

          none

          third party doesn't work. not voting is self-serving self-defeating idiocy

          we take over the #democrats

          it is a requirement or you need to shut up about what you say you care about forever, because you do not care if you do not vote in the #primaries

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          • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

            @benroyce @Pepijn

            The US also has primaries that don't get the attention they deserve. The Democrats are an appalling neoliberal far-right party, in the main, and the US's choice of Trump as an act of desperation is understandable from the POV of the status quo being intolerable.

            The Wolf PAC's introduction of AOC, Rashida Tlaib etc. is what should be happening wholesale.

            Without this, the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive.

            davevolek@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #28

            @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

            "the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive."

            So wisely said. The Democratic Party has structural defects that cannot be overcome. If there are elections next November, at best we can only expect another repeat of the previous administration.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @Pepijn

              if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

              this is where i place all my anger as an american

              all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

              absolutely infuriates me

              we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

              erickasimone@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #29

              @benroyce @Pepijn@mastodon.online this person has a history of being weird in this topic. DNE.

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              • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

                "the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive."

                So wisely said. The Democratic Party has structural defects that cannot be overcome. If there are elections next November, at best we can only expect another repeat of the previous administration.

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                #30

                @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                "that cannot be overcome"

                and what does mamdani mean to you?

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                • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                  @Leendaal @benroyce We should as NATO countries, minus that US idiot, put boots on the ground in Greenland to give the signal. Do not mess around with us.

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                  #31

                  @fenixmaster @Leendaal @benroyce totally. And ask the US to leave Thule. No 5 eyes either.

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                  • erickasimone@mastodon.socialE erickasimone@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce @Pepijn@mastodon.online this person has a history of being weird in this topic. DNE.

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                    #32

                    @ErickaSimone

                    fuck

                    thanks for the heads up

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                      "that cannot be overcome"

                      and what does mamdani mean to you?

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                      #33

                      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                      He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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                      • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                        He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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                        #34

                        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                        then *you* accept the status quo

                        we don't

                        there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

                        but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

                        i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

                        articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                          then *you* accept the status quo

                          we don't

                          there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

                          but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

                          i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

                          articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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                          #35

                          @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                          In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

                          After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

                          Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

                          We need a new way.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @eswag @Pepijn

                            get 50 #mamdani s in the #primaries2026

                            absolutely NO american leftist has an excuse not to vote in the primaries

                            none

                            third party doesn't work. not voting is self-serving self-defeating idiocy

                            we take over the #democrats

                            it is a requirement or you need to shut up about what you say you care about forever, because you do not care if you do not vote in the #primaries

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                            #36

                            @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                            100%

                            Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

                            We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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                            • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                              In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

                              After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

                              Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

                              We need a new way.

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                              #37

                              @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                              well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

                              you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

                              it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

                              so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

                              don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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                              • grammasaurus@mastodon.socialG grammasaurus@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @phl I bet I’m not the only American to just now be hearing about this. WTF?!?!

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                                #38

                                @grammasaurus @benroyce @phl I mean yes but it's 100% on-brand.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                  well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

                                  you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

                                  it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

                                  so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

                                  don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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                                  #39

                                  @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                  The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

                                  A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

                                  Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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                                  • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                    The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

                                    A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

                                    Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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                                    #40

                                    @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                    when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                                    which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                                    you can't be a ghost

                                    and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                      when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                                      which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                                      you can't be a ghost

                                      and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                                      #41

                                      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                      Have you worked inside a political party?

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                                      • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                        Have you worked inside a political party?

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                                        #42

                                        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                        i've done political work

                                        are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                                        come on man

                                        all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                                        can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                                        or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                                        i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                                        • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                                          @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

                                          I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

                                          What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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                                          #43

                                          @Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

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