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  • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

    @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

    He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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    #34

    @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

    then *you* accept the status quo

    we don't

    there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

    but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

    i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

    articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

      then *you* accept the status quo

      we don't

      there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

      but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

      i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

      articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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      #35

      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

      In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

      After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

      Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

      We need a new way.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @eswag @Pepijn

        get 50 #mamdani s in the #primaries2026

        absolutely NO american leftist has an excuse not to vote in the primaries

        none

        third party doesn't work. not voting is self-serving self-defeating idiocy

        we take over the #democrats

        it is a requirement or you need to shut up about what you say you care about forever, because you do not care if you do not vote in the #primaries

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        #36

        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

        100%

        Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

        We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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        • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

          In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

          After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

          Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

          We need a new way.

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          #37

          @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

          well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

          you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

          it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

          so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

          don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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          • grammasaurus@mastodon.socialG grammasaurus@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @phl I bet I’m not the only American to just now be hearing about this. WTF?!?!

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            #38

            @grammasaurus @benroyce @phl I mean yes but it's 100% on-brand.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

              well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

              you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

              it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

              so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

              don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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              #39

              @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

              The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

              A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

              Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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              • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

                A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

                Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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                #40

                @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                you can't be a ghost

                and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                  when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                  which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                  you can't be a ghost

                  and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                  #41

                  @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                  Have you worked inside a political party?

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                  • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                    Have you worked inside a political party?

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                    #42

                    @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                    i've done political work

                    are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                    come on man

                    all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                    can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                    or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                    i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                    • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                      @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

                      I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

                      What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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                      #43

                      @Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                        i've done political work

                        are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                        come on man

                        all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                        can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                        or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                        i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                        #44

                        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                        I know little about Mamdani. I have never worked with him to know how he handles people and situations. Winning an election is not a sign of good character and capacity for governance. I've seen too many turkeys get elected, but they have a good media image.

                        He could be another Obama--and this would be good. But we need to move past a political messiah fixing things for us.

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                        • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                          100%

                          Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

                          We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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                          #45

                          @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I think the rot is partisanship.

                          Partisanship got us into our gerrymandered lesser-of-two-evils shitshow.

                          I don't see how partisanship for an imaginary party that is spelled "d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t" but acts like lefties is going to reform jack shit.

                          Burn down all parties and just vote for lefties if you like lefties. If your ballot just has assholes on it, do whatever you feel you can live with.

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                          • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                            I know little about Mamdani. I have never worked with him to know how he handles people and situations. Winning an election is not a sign of good character and capacity for governance. I've seen too many turkeys get elected, but they have a good media image.

                            He could be another Obama--and this would be good. But we need to move past a political messiah fixing things for us.

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                            #46

                            @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                            yeah winning election doesn't decide the verdict on things, but of course, winning elections is necessary before you do one single damn thing, good, bad, or pointless

                            so again: if you crap on mamdani, when he's only been in an office a week, i will speak against you. you could be right, you could be wrong, but you certainly do not know, anymore than i know. i don't know better than you, but i know you don't know better than me. nobody knows the future

                            that's it

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                            • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                              @Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

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                              #47

                              @lordkhan @Pepijn @benroyce There were always people that the US was prepared to do bad things to in the pursuit of its own interests. All that's changed is we find ourselves transitioning from the exempt list to that list.

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                              • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                                @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I think the rot is partisanship.

                                Partisanship got us into our gerrymandered lesser-of-two-evils shitshow.

                                I don't see how partisanship for an imaginary party that is spelled "d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t" but acts like lefties is going to reform jack shit.

                                Burn down all parties and just vote for lefties if you like lefties. If your ballot just has assholes on it, do whatever you feel you can live with.

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                                #48

                                @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                                oh yeah, parties suck

                                unfortunately they are real

                                merely saying "there shouldn't be political parties" sounds good. and is true. but it doesn't change a damn thing

                                so we have to work with the shit we got

                                it's like saying "war is bad"

                                no shit

                                but when there's russians marching tanks over your border, that sentiment doesn't mean much. you have to fight them

                                so we have to engage on political parties. because it's great? no. because it is what it is

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                  i've done political work

                                  are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                                  come on man

                                  all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                                  can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                                  or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                                  i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                                  #49

                                  @benroyce Just a note: I do like your empowering anger, your thoughts and engagement, and your patience here.
                                  People like you give me hope for a change.

                                  @davevolek@mastodon.social @eswag @Pepijn

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                                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                    @benroyce Just a note: I do like your empowering anger, your thoughts and engagement, and your patience here.
                                    People like you give me hope for a change.

                                    @davevolek@mastodon.social @eswag @Pepijn

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                                    #50

                                    @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

                                    thank you

                                    i'm simply a hothead and a loudmouth

                                    which is not a virtue

                                    but it might be something like a virtue in a shit world such as it is

                                    any one who isn't angry isn't paying attention. so therefore all there is that i'm doing of any value is articulating anger. the tragedy would be is that is all i do. so the idea is to do that anger articulating *effectively*: actually change things

                                    let's see not only how i can do that, but how all of us can do that

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                                      oh yeah, parties suck

                                      unfortunately they are real

                                      merely saying "there shouldn't be political parties" sounds good. and is true. but it doesn't change a damn thing

                                      so we have to work with the shit we got

                                      it's like saying "war is bad"

                                      no shit

                                      but when there's russians marching tanks over your border, that sentiment doesn't mean much. you have to fight them

                                      so we have to engage on political parties. because it's great? no. because it is what it is

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                                      #51

                                      @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn I respectfully disagree.

                                      As far as I can tell, parties are the storefronts where big money donors go shopping to buy corrupt politicians.

                                      I will not support a political party. I will support the good candidates that I trust. People - with ideas - not parties.

                                      There's nothing about political parties in my Constitution, and that's good enough for me.

                                      We may have to disagree about this.

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                                      • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                                        @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn I respectfully disagree.

                                        As far as I can tell, parties are the storefronts where big money donors go shopping to buy corrupt politicians.

                                        I will not support a political party. I will support the good candidates that I trust. People - with ideas - not parties.

                                        There's nothing about political parties in my Constitution, and that's good enough for me.

                                        We may have to disagree about this.

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                                        #52

                                        @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                                        but we don't disagree

                                        i agree with you 100%

                                        you say you'll support good candidates

                                        great

                                        me too

                                        so when i say "take over the democratic party" what am i really saying?

                                        getting good candidates forward

                                        that the vehicle is a party is merely a rational tactic, it isn't the destruction of all that is good in the world

                                        and if the candidates are good enough, and we get ranked choice voting from them, we can start talking about killing political parties

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

                                          thank you

                                          i'm simply a hothead and a loudmouth

                                          which is not a virtue

                                          but it might be something like a virtue in a shit world such as it is

                                          any one who isn't angry isn't paying attention. so therefore all there is that i'm doing of any value is articulating anger. the tragedy would be is that is all i do. so the idea is to do that anger articulating *effectively*: actually change things

                                          let's see not only how i can do that, but how all of us can do that

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                                          #53

                                          @benroyce @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

                                          I certainly appreciate it. In a world of compromises and prevarications, it's good to see focus and determination to push through the roadblocks.

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