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While we do #Denmark #Danmark #USA #Greenland #Arctic drama, don't forget the #Inuit, the people who live there

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  • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

    @benroyce Finally read up a little on the Wikipedia page of Greenland (partly because someone recently mentioned they are not part of the EU since 1985 and wanted to see that).

    Anyway so the part that baffled me (but I guess shouldn't) is how the US, being guests on the island, showed absolutely no respect for their hosts, and tried to develop a nuclear launch site network in secret, which was only declassified and told Denmark 30 years after its cancellation. How fucking rude.

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    #19

    @phl

    yup

    #projectIceworm

    the americans didn't tell the danes, they just set up a secret nuclear installation in #greenland, then abandoned it, and as the ice melts it's a pollution timebomb

    https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/115107527036142772

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @phl

      yup

      #projectIceworm

      the americans didn't tell the danes, they just set up a secret nuclear installation in #greenland, then abandoned it, and as the ice melts it's a pollution timebomb

      https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/115107527036142772

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      #20

      @benroyce @phl I bet I’m not the only American to just now be hearing about this. WTF?!?!

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @ckd

        after one trump term perhaps

        but now in 2026 trump has destroyed all trust

        this is not recovering quickly

        as an american i apologize, and we have a lot of cleaning up to do

        do not trust us for a long time, even if you see improvement

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        #21

        @benroyce @ckd

        We'll be looking for :
        Trump declared a traitor
        all his appointments reversed
        his family and all of his cabinet and "advisors" jailed and stripped of all propterty
        All his donors stripped of all property
        Reparations for genocide of first nations.
        Reparations for slavery.
        All ICE agents jailed.
        Supreme Court cleansed of fascists.

        My logic: A US governement that is not ready to do all of these isn't actually ready to step away from US fascism.

        And yeah, most of these actions aren't possible under the law, but neither were Trump's actions.

        You cannot right the boat while tied hand and foot to rules that the fascists ignored.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @ckd

          after one trump term perhaps

          but now in 2026 trump has destroyed all trust

          this is not recovering quickly

          as an american i apologize, and we have a lot of cleaning up to do

          do not trust us for a long time, even if you see improvement

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          #22

          @benroyce For many of us the mistrust has long been there.

          Lots of people are aware stuff like the Hague Invasion Act has never been repealed, even when the so-called good democrats had decades to do so. It just wasn't important. For a long time that was still theoretical though.

          Still I think it was really the lack of accountability and system fixing after the coup attempt that taught us to fear the US as a nation of people who just don't care about "others", foreigners in specific.

          @ckd

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          • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

            @benroyce For many of us the mistrust has long been there.

            Lots of people are aware stuff like the Hague Invasion Act has never been repealed, even when the so-called good democrats had decades to do so. It just wasn't important. For a long time that was still theoretical though.

            Still I think it was really the lack of accountability and system fixing after the coup attempt that taught us to fear the US as a nation of people who just don't care about "others", foreigners in specific.

            @ckd

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            #23

            @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

            I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

            What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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            • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

              @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

              I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

              What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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              #24

              @Pepijn

              if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

              this is where i place all my anger as an american

              all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

              absolutely infuriates me

              we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @Pepijn

                if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

                this is where i place all my anger as an american

                all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

                absolutely infuriates me

                we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

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                #25

                @benroyce @Pepijn

                The US also has primaries that don't get the attention they deserve. The Democrats are an appalling neoliberal far-right party, in the main, and the US's choice of Trump as an act of desperation is understandable from the POV of the status quo being intolerable.

                The Wolf PAC's introduction of AOC, Rashida Tlaib etc. is what should be happening wholesale.

                Without this, the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive.

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                  #26

                  @Pepijn

                  2004 and facebook and 2006 and twitter

                  they didn't invent bigotry, but they supercharged it as a political force

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                  • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

                    @benroyce @Pepijn

                    The US also has primaries that don't get the attention they deserve. The Democrats are an appalling neoliberal far-right party, in the main, and the US's choice of Trump as an act of desperation is understandable from the POV of the status quo being intolerable.

                    The Wolf PAC's introduction of AOC, Rashida Tlaib etc. is what should be happening wholesale.

                    Without this, the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive.

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                    #27

                    @eswag @Pepijn

                    get 50 #mamdani s in the #primaries2026

                    absolutely NO american leftist has an excuse not to vote in the primaries

                    none

                    third party doesn't work. not voting is self-serving self-defeating idiocy

                    we take over the #democrats

                    it is a requirement or you need to shut up about what you say you care about forever, because you do not care if you do not vote in the #primaries

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                    • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

                      @benroyce @Pepijn

                      The US also has primaries that don't get the attention they deserve. The Democrats are an appalling neoliberal far-right party, in the main, and the US's choice of Trump as an act of desperation is understandable from the POV of the status quo being intolerable.

                      The Wolf PAC's introduction of AOC, Rashida Tlaib etc. is what should be happening wholesale.

                      Without this, the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive.

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                      #28

                      @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

                      "the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive."

                      So wisely said. The Democratic Party has structural defects that cannot be overcome. If there are elections next November, at best we can only expect another repeat of the previous administration.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @Pepijn

                        if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

                        this is where i place all my anger as an american

                        all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

                        absolutely infuriates me

                        we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

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                        #29

                        @benroyce @Pepijn@mastodon.online this person has a history of being weird in this topic. DNE.

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                        • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                          @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

                          "the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive."

                          So wisely said. The Democratic Party has structural defects that cannot be overcome. If there are elections next November, at best we can only expect another repeat of the previous administration.

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                          #30

                          @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                          "that cannot be overcome"

                          and what does mamdani mean to you?

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                          • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                            @Leendaal @benroyce We should as NATO countries, minus that US idiot, put boots on the ground in Greenland to give the signal. Do not mess around with us.

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                            #31

                            @fenixmaster @Leendaal @benroyce totally. And ask the US to leave Thule. No 5 eyes either.

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                            • erickasimone@mastodon.socialE erickasimone@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce @Pepijn@mastodon.online this person has a history of being weird in this topic. DNE.

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                              #32

                              @ErickaSimone

                              fuck

                              thanks for the heads up

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                "that cannot be overcome"

                                and what does mamdani mean to you?

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                                #33

                                @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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                                • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                  He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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                                  #34

                                  @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                  then *you* accept the status quo

                                  we don't

                                  there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

                                  but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

                                  i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

                                  articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                    then *you* accept the status quo

                                    we don't

                                    there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

                                    but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

                                    i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

                                    articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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                                    #35

                                    @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                    In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

                                    After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

                                    Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

                                    We need a new way.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @eswag @Pepijn

                                      get 50 #mamdani s in the #primaries2026

                                      absolutely NO american leftist has an excuse not to vote in the primaries

                                      none

                                      third party doesn't work. not voting is self-serving self-defeating idiocy

                                      we take over the #democrats

                                      it is a requirement or you need to shut up about what you say you care about forever, because you do not care if you do not vote in the #primaries

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                                      #36

                                      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                      100%

                                      Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

                                      We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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                                      • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                        In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

                                        After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

                                        Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

                                        We need a new way.

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                                        #37

                                        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                        well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

                                        you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

                                        it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

                                        so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

                                        don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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                                        • grammasaurus@mastodon.socialG grammasaurus@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce @phl I bet I’m not the only American to just now be hearing about this. WTF?!?!

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                                          #38

                                          @grammasaurus @benroyce @phl I mean yes but it's 100% on-brand.

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