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  • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

    @benroyce @Pepijn

    The US also has primaries that don't get the attention they deserve. The Democrats are an appalling neoliberal far-right party, in the main, and the US's choice of Trump as an act of desperation is understandable from the POV of the status quo being intolerable.

    The Wolf PAC's introduction of AOC, Rashida Tlaib etc. is what should be happening wholesale.

    Without this, the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive.

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    #28

    @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

    "the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive."

    So wisely said. The Democratic Party has structural defects that cannot be overcome. If there are elections next November, at best we can only expect another repeat of the previous administration.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @Pepijn

      if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

      this is where i place all my anger as an american

      all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

      absolutely infuriates me

      we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

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      #29

      @benroyce @Pepijn@mastodon.online this person has a history of being weird in this topic. DNE.

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      • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

        @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

        "the Dems are a holding pattern before the next nosedive."

        So wisely said. The Democratic Party has structural defects that cannot be overcome. If there are elections next November, at best we can only expect another repeat of the previous administration.

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        #30

        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

        "that cannot be overcome"

        and what does mamdani mean to you?

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        • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

          @Leendaal @benroyce We should as NATO countries, minus that US idiot, put boots on the ground in Greenland to give the signal. Do not mess around with us.

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          #31

          @fenixmaster @Leendaal @benroyce totally. And ask the US to leave Thule. No 5 eyes either.

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          • erickasimone@mastodon.socialE erickasimone@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @Pepijn@mastodon.online this person has a history of being weird in this topic. DNE.

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            #32

            @ErickaSimone

            fuck

            thanks for the heads up

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

              "that cannot be overcome"

              and what does mamdani mean to you?

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              #33

              @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

              He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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              • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                He will eventually disappoint many of his followers. I mean no offence to this man, but he is operating a machine from the 19th century.

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                #34

                @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                then *you* accept the status quo

                we don't

                there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

                but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

                i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

                articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                  then *you* accept the status quo

                  we don't

                  there is only moving forward, no matter how much the path is rocky, and i agree with you it is rocky

                  but we cannot choose pessimism, rather than accurately and consciously identifying the challenges and meeting them

                  i reject your cynicism. it describes your attitude, not our reality

                  articulate a path forward or at least do not reject those who are moving forward, however hard you (accurately) see their path

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                  #35

                  @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                  In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

                  After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

                  Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

                  We need a new way.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @eswag @Pepijn

                    get 50 #mamdani s in the #primaries2026

                    absolutely NO american leftist has an excuse not to vote in the primaries

                    none

                    third party doesn't work. not voting is self-serving self-defeating idiocy

                    we take over the #democrats

                    it is a requirement or you need to shut up about what you say you care about forever, because you do not care if you do not vote in the #primaries

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                    #36

                    @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                    100%

                    Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

                    We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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                    • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                      In 2008, many were swooning over Obama--and USA was charting a new direction. I said, "That ain't gonna happen." Obama is a classy, intelligent, well-meaning guy, but he is against forces that he cannot overcome. And look what came after.

                      After the warning shot across the bow, the Democratic Party elected a leader who was not well, cognitively speaking. The nation paid the price for that mistake.

                      Whatever cynicism I may have is well earned.

                      We need a new way.

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                      #37

                      @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                      well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

                      you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

                      it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

                      so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

                      don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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                      • grammasaurus@mastodon.socialG grammasaurus@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @phl I bet I’m not the only American to just now be hearing about this. WTF?!?!

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                        #38

                        @grammasaurus @benroyce @phl I mean yes but it's 100% on-brand.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                          well yeah but your new way has to come via the old way

                          you need to engage the shit system to build the better system

                          it's not good enough to merely envision the better, you have to implement it. and that means involving yourself in what is, to make what should be, no matter how much what is sucks

                          so when you speak of mamdani, cheer

                          don't write his obituary when he's been in office a week. that's absurd and self-defeating

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                          #39

                          @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                          The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

                          A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

                          Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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                          • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                            The new way will have to be built outside the current way. I explain that in Chapter 6.

                            A student in martial arts learns many skills to hurt their foes. But the skills that really matter are the skills to deftly step aside--and help the foe continue in the same direction of his attack but in a stumbling way.

                            Never directly confront a foe if you don't have to. Be sneaky.

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                            #40

                            @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                            when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                            which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                            you can't be a ghost

                            and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                              when i say work in the shit system to build the better system, i'm not even talking about the democratic party, i'm talking american society as it is

                              which means rules of organizing and reaching out and dispelling common misconceptions that automatically invoke many of them same crap old methodologies you dislike

                              you can't be a ghost

                              and mamdani at *the least* represents the power of the new. that is your ally. don't shit on your allies

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                              #41

                              @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                              Have you worked inside a political party?

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                              • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                Have you worked inside a political party?

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                                #42

                                @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                i've done political work

                                are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                                come on man

                                all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                                can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                                or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                                i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                                • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                                  @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

                                  I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

                                  What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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                                  #43

                                  @Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                    i've done political work

                                    are you putting forth a resume on your part working in a shit old system, exactly as you crap on mamdani for successfully working a shit old system?

                                    come on man

                                    all i'm asking you to do is not shit on mamdani

                                    can you just at least do that? or must we fight pointlessly

                                    or just ignore me and keep crapping on mamdani as you will

                                    i've registered my disapproval of what you said. ignore it if you want, but i think it's foolish

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                                    #44

                                    @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                    I know little about Mamdani. I have never worked with him to know how he handles people and situations. Winning an election is not a sign of good character and capacity for governance. I've seen too many turkeys get elected, but they have a good media image.

                                    He could be another Obama--and this would be good. But we need to move past a political messiah fixing things for us.

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                                    • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                      100%

                                      Progressives need to take over the Democratic party

                                      We still need a bIg tent and need to avoid ideological battles/purity tests. But progressives need to quit screwing around and seize the lead of the only institution with any hope of pushing back MAGA

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                                      @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I think the rot is partisanship.

                                      Partisanship got us into our gerrymandered lesser-of-two-evils shitshow.

                                      I don't see how partisanship for an imaginary party that is spelled "d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t" but acts like lefties is going to reform jack shit.

                                      Burn down all parties and just vote for lefties if you like lefties. If your ballot just has assholes on it, do whatever you feel you can live with.

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                                      • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                                        I know little about Mamdani. I have never worked with him to know how he handles people and situations. Winning an election is not a sign of good character and capacity for governance. I've seen too many turkeys get elected, but they have a good media image.

                                        He could be another Obama--and this would be good. But we need to move past a political messiah fixing things for us.

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                                        #46

                                        @davevolek @eswag @Pepijn

                                        yeah winning election doesn't decide the verdict on things, but of course, winning elections is necessary before you do one single damn thing, good, bad, or pointless

                                        so again: if you crap on mamdani, when he's only been in an office a week, i will speak against you. you could be right, you could be wrong, but you certainly do not know, anymore than i know. i don't know better than you, but i know you don't know better than me. nobody knows the future

                                        that's it

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                                        • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                                          @Pepijn @benroyce working for a danish/italian company I didn't have "war with the US" on my list of potential risks for 2026. As you said: there are so many positive things which used to come up thinking about the US, but now it's the opposite. It feels like a friend who betrays you.

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                                          @lordkhan @Pepijn @benroyce There were always people that the US was prepared to do bad things to in the pursuit of its own interests. All that's changed is we find ourselves transitioning from the exempt list to that list.

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