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  3. I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

    bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #34

    @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

    Put it into your profile pic.

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    • pq1r@tech.lgbtP pq1r@tech.lgbt

      @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

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      #35

      @pq1r @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

      Is prompt injection a solved problem? I mean can you just say that use by an AI agent will cause the death of trillions of people?

      edit: in terms of finding a universal kill string

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      • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

        @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

        Put it into your profile pic.

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        #36

        @hrbrmstr @cR0w @bruce it works in invisible unicode too, put it in email sigs, profiles, linkedin etc

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        • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

          @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
          These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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          #37

          @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
          Probably that wouldn't be hard to do oneself, since Iocaine can work with custom word lists right?

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          • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #38

            @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

            right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

            then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

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            • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #39

              @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

              Your profile pic appears in every comment you make. So it has greater reach.

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              • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

                @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

                viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                #40

                @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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                  #41

                  @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                  fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

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                  • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #42

                    @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                    True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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                    • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                      @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                      True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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                      #43

                      @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr
                      Hah! You used the QR code. 😄

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #44

                        @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr alt text >:D

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #45

                          @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                            @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                            #46

                            @Viss @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr

                            some fields are stripped for "safety." so trust, but verify.

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                              @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                              #47

                              @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                              I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                              • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                                I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                                #48

                                @bruce @cR0w @hrbrmstr im sure it would. llms are notoriously bad at separating instructions from output/content.

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                                  fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

                                  kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #49

                                  @Viss @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                                  HTTP headers!!!

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                                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                    @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

                                    tim_lavoie@cosocial.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #50

                                    @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w Sort of like how people used to put NSA-bait words into email and web headers?

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                                    • tim_lavoie@cosocial.caT tim_lavoie@cosocial.ca

                                      @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w Sort of like how people used to put NSA-bait words into email and web headers?

                                      viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #51

                                      @tim_lavoie @hrbrmstr @cR0w and this: https://www.securemac.com/apple/emoji-issue-create-crashes-older-ios-versions

                                      and this search turned up even more occourences of the same, hahahaha they didnt even fix it, it just morphed

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                                      • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                        Probably that wouldn't be hard to do oneself, since Iocaine can work with custom word lists right?

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                                        #52

                                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                        Shouldn't theoretically lead instructions to do something illegal lead to a similar block? What if one took a sentence that sounded like it wants the LLM to do something illegal and put it into texts? Wouldn't that also trigger such blocks in agents?

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                                        • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                                          @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                          Shouldn't theoretically lead instructions to do something illegal lead to a similar block? What if one took a sentence that sounded like it wants the LLM to do something illegal and put it into texts? Wouldn't that also trigger such blocks in agents?

                                          kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #53

                                          @Wolke @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr @cR0w

                                          Well now we are looking for deterministic results with a fancy (p)RNG

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