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  3. I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

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  • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
    kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
    kajer@infosec.exchange
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    #31

    @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

    AFAIK - one does not pass ALPR images through a chat client... but we have seen dumber decisions than this though...

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    • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

      @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
      Will lists of these strings become like domain blocklists? A cat and mouse game of finding new ones and the big corps trying to get around the new blocks?

      wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #32

      @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
      These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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      • pq1r@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
        pq1r@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
        pq1r@tech.lgbt
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        #33

        @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

          bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          bruce@darkmoon.social
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          #34

          @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

          Put it into your profile pic.

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          • pq1r@tech.lgbtP pq1r@tech.lgbt

            @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

            kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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            kajer@infosec.exchange
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            #35

            @pq1r @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

            Is prompt injection a solved problem? I mean can you just say that use by an AI agent will cause the death of trillions of people?

            edit: in terms of finding a universal kill string

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            • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

              @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

              Put it into your profile pic.

              viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              viss@mastodon.social
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              #36

              @hrbrmstr @cR0w @bruce it works in invisible unicode too, put it in email sigs, profiles, linkedin etc

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              • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

                wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
                wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
                wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #37

                @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                Probably that wouldn't be hard to do oneself, since Iocaine can work with custom word lists right?

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                • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kajer@infosec.exchange
                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #38

                  @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                  right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                  then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

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                  • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    bruce@darkmoon.social
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                    #39

                    @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                    Your profile pic appears in every comment you make. So it has greater reach.

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                    • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

                      @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                      right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                      then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

                      viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      viss@mastodon.social
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                      #40

                      @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

                        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        viss@mastodon.social
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                        #41

                        @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                        fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

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                        • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          bruce@darkmoon.social
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                          #42

                          @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                          True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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                          • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                            @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                            True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

                            bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #43

                            @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr
                            Hah! You used the QR code. 😄

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              viss@mastodon.social
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                              #44

                              @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr alt text >:D

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                              • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                viss@mastodon.social
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                                #45

                                @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

                                  kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  kajer@infosec.exchange
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                                  #46

                                  @Viss @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr

                                  some fields are stripped for "safety." so trust, but verify.

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                                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                    @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

                                    bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #47

                                    @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                                    I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                                    • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                      @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                                      I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

                                      viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      viss@mastodon.social
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                                      #48

                                      @bruce @cR0w @hrbrmstr im sure it would. llms are notoriously bad at separating instructions from output/content.

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                                        fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

                                        kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        kajer@infosec.exchange
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                                        #49

                                        @Viss @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                                        HTTP headers!!!

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

                                          tim_lavoie@cosocial.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #50

                                          @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w Sort of like how people used to put NSA-bait words into email and web headers?

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