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  3. I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

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  • dogfox@kpop.socialD dogfox@kpop.social

    That's a good one!

    @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr

    kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #30

    @dogfox @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

    Sadly, I would love this to work on ALPR cams, and it might, but we would have no way of knowing other than an uptick in mechanical turk usage.

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    • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

      AFAIK - one does not pass ALPR images through a chat client... but we have seen dumber decisions than this though...

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      • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
        Will lists of these strings become like domain blocklists? A cat and mouse game of finding new ones and the big corps trying to get around the new blocks?

        wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #32

        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
        These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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        • pq1r@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #33

          @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

            bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #34

            @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

            Put it into your profile pic.

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            • pq1r@tech.lgbtP pq1r@tech.lgbt

              @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

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              #35

              @pq1r @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

              Is prompt injection a solved problem? I mean can you just say that use by an AI agent will cause the death of trillions of people?

              edit: in terms of finding a universal kill string

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              • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

                Put it into your profile pic.

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                #36

                @hrbrmstr @cR0w @bruce it works in invisible unicode too, put it in email sigs, profiles, linkedin etc

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                • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                  @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                  These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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                  #37

                  @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                  Probably that wouldn't be hard to do oneself, since Iocaine can work with custom word lists right?

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                  • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #38

                    @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                    right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                    then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

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                      #39

                      @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                      Your profile pic appears in every comment you make. So it has greater reach.

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                      • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

                        @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                        right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                        then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

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                        #40

                        @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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                          #41

                          @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                          fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

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                            #42

                            @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                            True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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                            • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                              @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                              True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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                              #43

                              @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr
                              Hah! You used the QR code. 😄

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                              • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #44

                                @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr alt text >:D

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                                  #45

                                  @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                    @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                                    #46

                                    @Viss @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr

                                    some fields are stripped for "safety." so trust, but verify.

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                                      #47

                                      @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                                      I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                                      • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                        @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                                        I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                                        #48

                                        @bruce @cR0w @hrbrmstr im sure it would. llms are notoriously bad at separating instructions from output/content.

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                                          fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

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                                          #49

                                          @Viss @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                                          HTTP headers!!!

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