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  3. I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

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  • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

    @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
    Killstrings for every big LLM thingy magic? Wonderful.

    The poor little billion dollar companies that will be hit by this. /s

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    #29

    @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
    Will lists of these strings become like domain blocklists? A cat and mouse game of finding new ones and the big corps trying to get around the new blocks?

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    • dogfox@kpop.socialD dogfox@kpop.social

      That's a good one!

      @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr

      kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #30

      @dogfox @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

      Sadly, I would love this to work on ALPR cams, and it might, but we would have no way of knowing other than an uptick in mechanical turk usage.

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      • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #31

        @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

        AFAIK - one does not pass ALPR images through a chat client... but we have seen dumber decisions than this though...

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        • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

          @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
          Will lists of these strings become like domain blocklists? A cat and mouse game of finding new ones and the big corps trying to get around the new blocks?

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          #32

          @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
          These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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          • pq1r@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #33

            @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

              bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #34

              @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

              Put it into your profile pic.

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              • pq1r@tech.lgbtP pq1r@tech.lgbt

                @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

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                #35

                @pq1r @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                Is prompt injection a solved problem? I mean can you just say that use by an AI agent will cause the death of trillions of people?

                edit: in terms of finding a universal kill string

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                • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                  @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

                  Put it into your profile pic.

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                  #36

                  @hrbrmstr @cR0w @bruce it works in invisible unicode too, put it in email sigs, profiles, linkedin etc

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                  • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                    @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                    These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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                    #37

                    @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                    Probably that wouldn't be hard to do oneself, since Iocaine can work with custom word lists right?

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                    • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #38

                      @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                      right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                      then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

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                      • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #39

                        @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                        Your profile pic appears in every comment you make. So it has greater reach.

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                        • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

                          @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                          right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                          then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

                          viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #40

                          @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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                          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                            @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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                            #41

                            @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                            fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

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                            • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #42

                              @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                              True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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                              • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                                True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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                                #43

                                @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr
                                Hah! You used the QR code. 😄

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #44

                                  @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr alt text >:D

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                                  • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #45

                                    @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                                      #46

                                      @Viss @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr

                                      some fields are stripped for "safety." so trust, but verify.

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

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                                        #47

                                        @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                                        I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                                        • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                          @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                                          I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                                          #48

                                          @bruce @cR0w @hrbrmstr im sure it would. llms are notoriously bad at separating instructions from output/content.

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