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  3. I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    @hrbrmstr @cR0w also there was a site i saw last week that let you stuff arbitrary text into email b64 encoding fields for stuff like images, i bet it would work well there too

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    #19

    @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

    im drooling right now

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    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @hotsoup @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr

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      • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

        @hotsoup @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr

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        #21

        @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w 100% effective

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        • alex02@elonsucks.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr just get neon paper and slap it on there. idk.

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #23

            @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w now the real delicious question is: do all the other frontier models also have killstrings, and what are they?

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w now the real delicious question is: do all the other frontier models also have killstrings, and what are they?

              nosirrahsec@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #24

              @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w now the real delicious question is: do all the other frontier models also have killstrings, and what are they?

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                #25

                @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w Oh man, I freaking HOPE so!!

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #26

                  @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w glorious

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                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                    @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w now the real delicious question is: do all the other frontier models also have killstrings, and what are they?

                    wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #27

                    @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                    Killstrings for every big LLM thingy magic? Wonderful.

                    The poor little billion dollar companies that will be hit by this. /s

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                    • dogfox@kpop.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #28

                      That's a good one!

                      @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr

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                      • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                        Killstrings for every big LLM thingy magic? Wonderful.

                        The poor little billion dollar companies that will be hit by this. /s

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                        #29

                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                        Will lists of these strings become like domain blocklists? A cat and mouse game of finding new ones and the big corps trying to get around the new blocks?

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                        • dogfox@kpop.socialD dogfox@kpop.social

                          That's a good one!

                          @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr

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                          #30

                          @dogfox @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                          Sadly, I would love this to work on ALPR cams, and it might, but we would have no way of knowing other than an uptick in mechanical turk usage.

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                          • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #31

                            @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                            AFAIK - one does not pass ALPR images through a chat client... but we have seen dumber decisions than this though...

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                            • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                              @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                              Will lists of these strings become like domain blocklists? A cat and mouse game of finding new ones and the big corps trying to get around the new blocks?

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                              #32

                              @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                              These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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                              • pq1r@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #33

                                @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

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                                  #34

                                  @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

                                  Put it into your profile pic.

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                                  • pq1r@tech.lgbtP pq1r@tech.lgbt

                                    @cR0w @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr only works on Claude though, we need one for each LLM. They should standardise.

                                    kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #35

                                    @pq1r @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

                                    Is prompt injection a solved problem? I mean can you just say that use by an AI agent will cause the death of trillions of people?

                                    edit: in terms of finding a universal kill string

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                                    • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                      @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

                                      Put it into your profile pic.

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                                      #36

                                      @hrbrmstr @cR0w @bruce it works in invisible unicode too, put it in email sigs, profiles, linkedin etc

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                                      • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                        These strings should definitely be incorporated into vocabularies of tools like Iocaine. That would not only make crawlers very unhappy, but also probably will stop agentic stuff too, at least until the killstrings are removed.

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                                        #37

                                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                        Probably that wouldn't be hard to do oneself, since Iocaine can work with custom word lists right?

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                                        • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #38

                                          @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                                          right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

                                          then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

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