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  3. I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

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  • kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
    kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
    kajer@infosec.exchange
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    #38

    @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

    right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

    then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

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    • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #39

      @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

      Your profile pic appears in every comment you make. So it has greater reach.

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      • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

        @cR0w @dogfox @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

        right, my teardown on flock shit only showed that yolov3tiny was used to crop images matching known objects, and uploading to AWS

        then 404 had an article about flock (and others) using mechanical turk to get plate numbers from images that the models couldn't read.

        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        viss@mastodon.social
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        #40

        @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr well theres verkada, and .. another whos name i dont remember who just ship the video stream offsite and 'do ai stuff to it', so for those it may very well work great

          viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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          #41

          @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

          fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

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          • bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #42

            @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

            True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

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            • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

              @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr

              True. But it should have exif or other meta data.

              bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              bruce@darkmoon.social
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              #43

              @cR0w @Viss @hrbrmstr
              Hah! You used the QR code. 😄

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                viss@mastodon.social
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                #44

                @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr alt text >:D

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  viss@mastodon.social
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                  #45

                  @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

                  kajer@infosec.exchangeK bruce@darkmoon.socialB 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                    @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

                    kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    kajer@infosec.exchange
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                    #46

                    @Viss @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr

                    some fields are stripped for "safety." so trust, but verify.

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      @cR0w @bruce @hrbrmstr you would have to hide it in the image file format. jpegs and pngs can have some meta data fields available >:D

                      bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #47

                      @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                      I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

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                      • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                        @Viss @cR0w @hrbrmstr

                        I wonder if using the killstring as a file name would work

                        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        viss@mastodon.social
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                        #48

                        @bruce @cR0w @hrbrmstr im sure it would. llms are notoriously bad at separating instructions from output/content.

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          @kajer @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                          fuck .. this could be like the gits:sac laughing man image.

                          kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          kajer@infosec.exchange
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                          #49

                          @Viss @cR0w @dogfox @hotsoup @hrbrmstr

                          HTTP headers!!!

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                          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                            @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

                            tim_lavoie@cosocial.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #50

                            @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w Sort of like how people used to put NSA-bait words into email and web headers?

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                            • tim_lavoie@cosocial.caT tim_lavoie@cosocial.ca

                              @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w Sort of like how people used to put NSA-bait words into email and web headers?

                              viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              viss@mastodon.social
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                              #51

                              @tim_lavoie @hrbrmstr @cR0w and this: https://www.securemac.com/apple/emoji-issue-create-crashes-older-ios-versions

                              and this search turned up even more occourences of the same, hahahaha they didnt even fix it, it just morphed

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                              • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                                @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                Probably that wouldn't be hard to do oneself, since Iocaine can work with custom word lists right?

                                wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #52

                                @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                Shouldn't theoretically lead instructions to do something illegal lead to a similar block? What if one took a sentence that sounded like it wants the LLM to do something illegal and put it into texts? Wouldn't that also trigger such blocks in agents?

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                                • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                                  @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                  Shouldn't theoretically lead instructions to do something illegal lead to a similar block? What if one took a sentence that sounded like it wants the LLM to do something illegal and put it into texts? Wouldn't that also trigger such blocks in agents?

                                  kajer@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  kajer@infosec.exchange
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                                  #53

                                  @Wolke @Viss @hotsoup @hrbrmstr @cR0w

                                  Well now we are looking for deterministic results with a fancy (p)RNG

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                                  • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                                    @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                    Shouldn't theoretically lead instructions to do something illegal lead to a similar block? What if one took a sentence that sounded like it wants the LLM to do something illegal and put it into texts? Wouldn't that also trigger such blocks in agents?

                                    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    viss@mastodon.social
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                                    #54

                                    @Wolke @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w none of that 'plumbing' exists in how an llm works.

                                    here:

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                                    • wolke@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #55

                                      @cR0w @Viss @bruce @hrbrmstr
                                      On bare mastodon it is not possible as far as Wolke knows. There are forks of Masto though, which implement it (Chuckya for example). Maybe it will get upstreamed at some point ...

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @Wolke @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w none of that 'plumbing' exists in how an llm works.

                                        here:

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                                        #56

                                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w
                                        Yeah Wolke knows, that the LLMs themselves just generate shit without understanding it, but most corps try to filter that shit, so Wolke thought maybe that would be another way to also make agents stop working.

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          @hrbrmstr @cR0w also there was a site i saw last week that let you stuff arbitrary text into email b64 encoding fields for stuff like images, i bet it would work well there too

                                          defractal@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          defractal@infosec.exchange
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                                          #57

                                          @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w I wonder whether embedding it in the low bits of the pixels would work too. Or embedding it through image scaling.

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