Mastodon Skip to content
  • Home
  • Aktuell
  • Tags
  • Über dieses Forum
Einklappen
Grafik mit zwei überlappenden Sprechblasen, eine grün und eine lila.
Abspeckgeflüster – Forum für Menschen mit Gewicht(ung)

Kostenlos. Werbefrei. Menschlich. Dein Abnehmforum.

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026.

Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026.

Geplant Angeheftet Gesperrt Verschoben Uncategorized
76 Beiträge 29 Kommentatoren 0 Aufrufe
  • Älteste zuerst
  • Neuste zuerst
  • Meiste Stimmen
Antworten
  • In einem neuen Thema antworten
Anmelden zum Antworten
Dieses Thema wurde gelöscht. Nur Nutzer mit entsprechenden Rechten können es sehen.
  • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

    @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Shutting down is also an option. I could not in good conscience run anything that asks for ID. If I owned a store I would refuse to carry age restriced products for the same reason.

    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
    benroyce@mastodon.social
    schrieb zuletzt editiert von
    #55

    @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

    what do you think about my post above asking for a credit card?

    it achieves the same effect, and no one is getting a credit card without id. no server is getting your id and the security hassle with that, and you're not revealing your id anymore than it already has been

    the big benefit: with your cc already attached to your profile, donating to your server becomes a breeze. and more people should be doing that

    lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
    0
    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @LukefromDC @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

      which is all fine and good, because you're talking tactics not emotional grand standing

      what you won't do therefore is attack some admin of a server of thousands or more for doing what they *have* to do so the govt doesn't knock on their door

      lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
      lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
      lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
      schrieb zuletzt editiert von
      #56

      @benroyce @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

      No, I would attack the government and steer people to servers out of their reach. An admin hassled one too many times by cops might even need to move their own account to one if the cops go after their hosting

      benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
      0
      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

        what do you think about my post above asking for a credit card?

        it achieves the same effect, and no one is getting a credit card without id. no server is getting your id and the security hassle with that, and you're not revealing your id anymore than it already has been

        the big benefit: with your cc already attached to your profile, donating to your server becomes a breeze. and more people should be doing that

        lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
        lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
        lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
        schrieb zuletzt editiert von
        #57

        @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Some do not have or want credit cards and will simply use other servers.

        There is no way any regime can shut down access to every non-agr verification compliant server. Limits on federation woulf just split the fediverse into two networks which would inevitanly be bridged back together.

        FL cannot even stop Pornhub: they just block conmections from FL IP addresses and gladly take Tor and VPN traffic

        benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
        0
        • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

          @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic The PR only adds an option to ask age, not to use a 3ed party AI verificstion "service" or read an ID. By itsrlf that's a nothingburger but I would still turn it off legal or otherwise on any server I ran.

          Note that birthdays are dangerous in the hands of an atacker, so never enter your real one for any account anywhere. Let the account go if challenged

          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
          benroyce@mastodon.social
          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
          #58

          @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

          i yearly enjoy the services that sometimes say happy birthday to me...

          on the fake birthday i've been entering since forever

          🤭

          salixsericea@mastodon.socialS 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
          0
          • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

            @benroyce @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

            No, I would attack the government and steer people to servers out of their reach. An admin hassled one too many times by cops might even need to move their own account to one if the cops go after their hosting

            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
            benroyce@mastodon.social
            schrieb zuletzt editiert von
            #59

            @LukefromDC @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

            again that's all fine and good

            but if you're asking a server to shut down with thousands of accounts when people can just enter a fake birthday it's far too dramatic

            effective resistance is not about purity

            lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
            0
            • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

              @Mastodon @mellifluousbox If Mastodon implements age verification, we leave.

              lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
              lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
              lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
              schrieb zuletzt editiert von
              #60

              @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox There will ALWAYS be noncompliant servers run by people who never travel to the US , the EU, the UK, or Austrailai. Also ones run by crews who know how to obfuscate ownerahip and get offshore hosting.

              That's where you will also find me-on noncompliant servers

              1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
              0
              • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Some do not have or want credit cards and will simply use other servers.

                There is no way any regime can shut down access to every non-agr verification compliant server. Limits on federation woulf just split the fediverse into two networks which would inevitanly be bridged back together.

                FL cannot even stop Pornhub: they just block conmections from FL IP addresses and gladly take Tor and VPN traffic

                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                benroyce@mastodon.social
                schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                #61

                @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                you mean tor and VPN providers that spy on the people who use it because anyone using that it is flagging their activity as sensitive?

                tor was started at the us naval research laboratory for dissidents in countries unfriendly to the usa

                you think they don't have enough exit nodes to see what is going on?

                and mastodon needs support

                i'd almost (i said almost) support the idea of mandatory ccs on sign up with or without id laws

                lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                0
                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @LukefromDC @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                  again that's all fine and good

                  but if you're asking a server to shut down with thousands of accounts when people can just enter a fake birthday it's far too dramatic

                  effective resistance is not about purity

                  lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                  schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                  #62

                  @benroyce @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron Some servers are much smaller and can provide their users wirh migration tips.

                  This is what blackblogs.org did when running a US based anarchist wordpress hosting server got too dangerous: they shut doen, and steered people like myself to noblogs.org and other non-US alternatives, plus guides to moving content over. I didn't lose any content at all

                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                  0
                  • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                    @benroyce @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron Some servers are much smaller and can provide their users wirh migration tips.

                    This is what blackblogs.org did when running a US based anarchist wordpress hosting server got too dangerous: they shut doen, and steered people like myself to noblogs.org and other non-US alternatives, plus guides to moving content over. I didn't lose any content at all

                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                    benroyce@mastodon.social
                    schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                    #63

                    @LukefromDC @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                    great

                    would you characterize yourself as the average mastodon user? or more broadly, the average social media user?

                    most people want to sign onto a server, browse, and post

                    that's it

                    you can't go after them for that, people don't have the bandwidth or time for the hassles

                    and we can't become a tiny whisper of a cryptic fringe to adhere to some unnecessary purity test

                    lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                    0
                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                      you mean tor and VPN providers that spy on the people who use it because anyone using that it is flagging their activity as sensitive?

                      tor was started at the us naval research laboratory for dissidents in countries unfriendly to the usa

                      you think they don't have enough exit nodes to see what is going on?

                      and mastodon needs support

                      i'd almost (i said almost) support the idea of mandatory ccs on sign up with or without id laws

                      lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                      lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                      lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                      schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                      #64

                      @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic .onion access bypasses exit nodes enrirely. If Tor gets compromised dozens of nations find their intelligence services lose covert communication except by direct radio or sattelite. If civilian traffic is blocked or driven off, spy traffic then instantly stands out.

                      Too many armies need Tor to kill it

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                      0
                      • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                        @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic .onion access bypasses exit nodes enrirely. If Tor gets compromised dozens of nations find their intelligence services lose covert communication except by direct radio or sattelite. If civilian traffic is blocked or driven off, spy traffic then instantly stands out.

                        Too many armies need Tor to kill it

                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                        benroyce@mastodon.social
                        schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                        #65

                        @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                        .onion doesn't use exit nodes but it uses rendezvous nodes

                        and nobody wants to kill tor, the intelligence services love it

                        the foolishness is people who think something built by the us govt is perfectly anonymous

                        it *is* anonymous. to most every other entity

                        lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                        0
                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @LukefromDC @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                          great

                          would you characterize yourself as the average mastodon user? or more broadly, the average social media user?

                          most people want to sign onto a server, browse, and post

                          that's it

                          you can't go after them for that, people don't have the bandwidth or time for the hassles

                          and we can't become a tiny whisper of a cryptic fringe to adhere to some unnecessary purity test

                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                          #66

                          @benroyce @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                          That means they will find servers that fit their needs, just as folks in my position find servers that fit our needs. Mastodon is NOT like Twitter or FB wirh a single server farm and one set of rules for all.

                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                          0
                          • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                            @benroyce @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                            That means they will find servers that fit their needs, just as folks in my position find servers that fit our needs. Mastodon is NOT like Twitter or FB wirh a single server farm and one set of rules for all.

                            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            benroyce@mastodon.social
                            schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                            #67

                            @LukefromDC @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                            zero argument

                            and if you make the services you talk about user friendly enough that the average social media user can point and click and zero hassle, even better

                            until then, some servers are stuck in unfriendly districts

                            and that's not their fault

                            the govt is at fault

                            1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                            0
                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                              .onion doesn't use exit nodes but it uses rendezvous nodes

                              and nobody wants to kill tor, the intelligence services love it

                              the foolishness is people who think something built by the us govt is perfectly anonymous

                              it *is* anonymous. to most every other entity

                              lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                              lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                              lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                              schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                              #68

                              @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Perfect security would require our own hardware down to our own fabs making our own silicon. Then we'd have to bridge a new protocol we own over clearnet on the model of the US Government's own SIPRNET classified comms network.

                              It's easy enough to tell who I am by my writing style. Things like Tor let my bypass censors more than hide who I am.

                              benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                              0
                              • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Perfect security would require our own hardware down to our own fabs making our own silicon. Then we'd have to bridge a new protocol we own over clearnet on the model of the US Government's own SIPRNET classified comms network.

                                It's easy enough to tell who I am by my writing style. Things like Tor let my bypass censors more than hide who I am.

                                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                benroyce@mastodon.social
                                schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                #69

                                @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                                understood

                                but we're now very far away from your average normie who just wants to see cat pictures

                                and that's where this topic truly lies

                                lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                                0
                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                                  understood

                                  but we're now very far away from your average normie who just wants to see cat pictures

                                  and that's where this topic truly lies

                                  lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                                  schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                  #70

                                  @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Indeed so. Totally different needs and it goes both ways. An activist video server for instance could not handle doing 10x its bandwidth in cat videos, a server optimized for easy use to poat cat videos might not be safe going forward for posting videos of police brutality.

                                  As different as a cruise ship and a destroyer, a Cessna and a Spitfire.

                                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                                  0
                                  • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                    @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Indeed so. Totally different needs and it goes both ways. An activist video server for instance could not handle doing 10x its bandwidth in cat videos, a server optimized for easy use to poat cat videos might not be safe going forward for posting videos of police brutality.

                                    As different as a cruise ship and a destroyer, a Cessna and a Spitfire.

                                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    benroyce@mastodon.social
                                    schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                    #71

                                    @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                                    100%

                                    and that's why we can't do purity tests on resistance

                                    purity tests destroy effective resistance

                                    effective resistance that isn't pure is not a betrayal

                                    we resist how we can, in the ways we can

                                    this isn't an argument against your words, i'm just harking back to the argument up higher

                                    lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                                    0
                                    • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                                      @benroyce @starlily Have you ever heard of the idea of disobedience?

                                      qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      qgustavor@urusai.social
                                      schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                      #72

                                      @ariarhythmic @benroyce @starlily Great, fascism will make good Mastodon instances have the same status as BitTorrent trackers and pirate streaming websites!

                                      Well, the tracker I used to contribute for is still up even today, thus we may think disobedience is fine, they will not go for small instances. On the other hand, it's a false correlation: one thing is Crunchyroll, Netflix and other companies choosing not to go against small groups because they may die out of just from not getting enough donations, other thing is fascist governments. They are already going against individuals, people fear ICE, as an example.

                                      1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                                      0
                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                                        i yearly enjoy the services that sometimes say happy birthday to me...

                                        on the fake birthday i've been entering since forever

                                        🤭

                                        salixsericea@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        salixsericea@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        salixsericea@mastodon.social
                                        schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                        #73

                                        @benroyce @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic LOL, yes. I am so used to fake birthdays that I have to make an extra effort to enter the correct one if needed.

                                        I oopsied my birthday for an online plane ticket booking after 9/11. No issue. Got to fly as booked.

                                        1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                                        0
                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                                          100%

                                          and that's why we can't do purity tests on resistance

                                          purity tests destroy effective resistance

                                          effective resistance that isn't pure is not a betrayal

                                          we resist how we can, in the ways we can

                                          this isn't an argument against your words, i'm just harking back to the argument up higher

                                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                                          schrieb zuletzt editiert von
                                          #74

                                          @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic Back in the 2010 era, some DC animal rights activists discovered that selective use of "vegan purity testing" was a simple and effective way to drive out suspected undercover cops.

                                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
                                          0
                                          Antworten
                                          • In einem neuen Thema antworten
                                          Anmelden zum Antworten
                                          • Älteste zuerst
                                          • Neuste zuerst
                                          • Meiste Stimmen



                                          Copyright (c) 2025 abSpecktrum (@abspecklog@fedimonster.de)

                                          Erstellt mit Schlaflosigkeit, Kaffee, Brokkoli & ♥

                                          Impressum | Datenschutzerklärung | Nutzungsbedingungen

                                          • Anmelden

                                          • Du hast noch kein Konto? Registrieren

                                          • Anmelden oder registrieren, um zu suchen
                                          • Erster Beitrag
                                            Letzter Beitrag
                                          0
                                          • Home
                                          • Aktuell
                                          • Tags
                                          • Über dieses Forum