Time for a #discord alternatives thread, for no particular reason.

[zeank@mastodon.social]

@mdiluz for most parts it’s a feature rich, modern XMPP client. That amongst others focuses on good UX regarding chatrooms and offers A/V calls on top of that. And yes, it also has those blogging, news aggregator features. They plan to introduce a concept of „spaces“, which comes close to what Discord offers, a community space, a collection of rooms etc (yet to be defined what exactly it will be).

[zeank@mastodon.social]

@mdiluz And yes, it’s on the heavy side, which is why I’m not hosting it myself at this point. I’d have to upgrade my machine first. Personally I prefer just slim, regular XMPP clients. They do all I need already.

[coffeegm@dice.camp]

@mdiluz Thank you for the list! I'd like to bring your attention to Fluxer, which is a clone of Discord. Like, almost identical. And they have their own version of Nitro but at the old price point of Nitro when Discord started.

[mdiluz@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@maswan Curious if you can help - I booted up a self-hosted RC instance and didn't really get a chance to sign up to a plan or not, but it's very unclear to me which "plan" I'm on, and the admin page shows only 50 "seats" available.

Any idea how to use the "Community" plan?

[mdiluz@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@maswan tbf might be that https://github.com/RocketChat/rocketchat-compose doesn't allow the "community" edition easilt

[mdiluz@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@coffeegm nice, first I've heard. I'll.check it out and add to the thread

[mdiluz@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@coffeegm well I have to say this is one of the most fishy things a website has ever asked me

[coffeegm@dice.camp]

@mdiluz Oof, I haven't tried accessing the website from a mobile device so that's the first time I've seen it too. Weird.

[darkuncle@infosec.exchange]

@mdiluz I miss IRC sometimes, but I really do like the introduction of GIFs, reactions, etc. that have made chat a richer experience in the past 30 years

[xurizaemon@toot.cafe]

@mdiluz MM has a web app (= you can use browser, or you can use mobile client) , appears to have been a decent choice for one project I'm adjacent to (~3K users), hasn't yet done any extractive shit to them *that I'm aware of*

[maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se]

@mdiluz
Hmm. I haven't done a fresh install this decade, but I was under the expression that it was still possible somehow. Just that their install wizard etc push you to "free" or one of the paid plans.

[xurizaemon@toot.cafe]

@mdiluz finding out that MM has accepted YC funding and is a US based company makes me less confident about it having a sustainable place in community future

Also this, ew: https://tech.lgbt/@alxndr/116047470479051482

[maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se]

@mdiluz
I also get some updates now and then on the github issue about the install wizard insisting on agreeing to their cloud dara policy, something that there are workarounds for. Also a self-hosting hostile thing, for which we probably cannot agree to due to legal reasons (and don't need to for self-hosted, it's all about their cloud services). But there is a wizard=done workaround

It is rather sad, because for a while up until about 2024 they had self-hostable or hosted by them options.

[mdiluz@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@maswan honestly I'm quite surprised there's no community fork maintained just yet, seems ripe for the taking

[maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se]

@mdiluz Yeah, I am too. I rate the chat itself very favorable to slack and mattermost from a user experience.

I guess the code is really hard to package and maintain, maybe on purpose.

[mdiluz@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@xurizaemon oh good point, I should really have been looking into which ones were european too!

[xurizaemon@toot.cafe]

@mdiluz well

[xurizaemon@toot.cafe]

@mdiluz y'all know there's a southern hemisphere right

[xurizaemon@toot.cafe]

@mdiluz y'all know there's folks not white right

[xurizaemon@toot.cafe]

@mdiluz sorry i'm just joshing but yeah, it's not a US/EU binary out here!