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Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud.

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  • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

    @joepie91 @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt

    Small side note; research was done on the actual benefit of in place repairs or swaps of defective components/servers in a rack (as an engineer entering the server room invariably causes other risks etc.)

    The results were in *most cases* for hyperdense computing (cloud/Ai/HPC) to simply not even attempt a repair. What then happens is after a % of a rack is defective, the *entire rack* is removed and scrapped. Even the potentially working parts

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    #105

    @joepie91 @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt

    Also, I recall that resources for Ai are generally written off after 3 years. Most enterprise server hardware previously was expected to last between 5 to 10 years.

    Most of those GPUs don't even last the 3 years - as they are running full speed 100% of the time.

    Wasteful doesn't begin to describe it

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    • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

      @joepie91 @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt

      Small side note; research was done on the actual benefit of in place repairs or swaps of defective components/servers in a rack (as an engineer entering the server room invariably causes other risks etc.)

      The results were in *most cases* for hyperdense computing (cloud/Ai/HPC) to simply not even attempt a repair. What then happens is after a % of a rack is defective, the *entire rack* is removed and scrapped. Even the potentially working parts

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      #106

      @Aprazeth @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt I was not aware of this, but I'm also not surprised. It's a general pattern that whenever profit optimization is involved, with rising labor costs, the outcome of any situation is almost always to throw more non-human resources at the problem...

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      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

        Reject this future.

        Keep your hardware local.

        Run #Linux.

        Own your data.

        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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        #107

        @terminaltilt

        I know someone who uses Facebook as their photo backup service in case you were wondering how clueless most people are.

        Social media and much of what we do online is so fleeting and ephemeral I wonder if most people even care about storing things long-term.

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        • c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC c_merriweather@social.linux.pizza

          @NormanDunbar @filobus @terminaltilt Various vendor in Europe are working on setting up their own cloud systems. Personally, I would trust a German cloud service much more than any US company. I already have a tuta.com email address.

          (Rather ironic.)

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          #108

          @c_merriweather @NormanDunbar @terminaltilt yes, gafam aren't the only, there are many providers
          It depends on your requirements, but they are in a nation that is in conflict with EU and it will be more and more
          And they are locking an ai into every product, with no privacy, they could do industrial espionage, block or tear down their service under order of their authorities
          Their is no more a reliable service
          (When Ukrainian war started Kaspersky was removed from many business pcs)

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          • filobus@sociale.networkF filobus@sociale.network

            @c_merriweather @NormanDunbar @terminaltilt yes, gafam aren't the only, there are many providers
            It depends on your requirements, but they are in a nation that is in conflict with EU and it will be more and more
            And they are locking an ai into every product, with no privacy, they could do industrial espionage, block or tear down their service under order of their authorities
            Their is no more a reliable service
            (When Ukrainian war started Kaspersky was removed from many business pcs)

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            #109

            @filobus @NormanDunbar @terminaltilt I'm betting on Tuta being safer for me, in California, than gmail or att.

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            • afeinman@wandering.shopA afeinman@wandering.shop

              @datum @pluralistic @terminaltilt tilting on this slightly:

              The cloud is like renting a storage cube. Charging you for space and access, possibly for useful services like preservation and access. But in the end hard to get rid of and really rooted deferred decisions around downsizing.

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              #110

              @afeinman @datum @pluralistic @terminaltilt And like rental storage can catch fire with no warning because something stupid the landlord or another tenant did. And authorities can break in and go through your stuff without you knowing.

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              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                Reject this future.

                Keep your hardware local.

                Run #Linux.

                Own your data.

                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                #111

                @terminaltilt Microsoft saying "you MUST have AI in your PC" is an obvious prelude to "the Windows ToC lets us train our global models using spare AI processor cycles on your computer 24/7."

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                  #112

                  @herrLorenz @tom @terminaltilt

                  😆 😆

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                  • joepie91@fedi.slightly.techJ joepie91@fedi.slightly.tech

                    @Aprazeth @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt I was not aware of this, but I'm also not surprised. It's a general pattern that whenever profit optimization is involved, with rising labor costs, the outcome of any situation is almost always to throw more non-human resources at the problem...

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                    #113

                    @joepie91 @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt

                    It's insane. Even the water consumption is not necessary.

                    Better cooling exists and is far more efficient (Microsoft did their research and acknowledged it). But water and chemicals (anti fungicide, -herbicide, -corrosives) are way cheaper for them at this point. So that is what gets used.

                    And the chemical sludge at the end? Good luck filtering it back to even "safe to dump" levels. Yay progress 😞

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                    • c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC c_merriweather@social.linux.pizza

                      @filobus @NormanDunbar @terminaltilt I'm betting on Tuta being safer for me, in California, than gmail or att.

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                      #114

                      @c_merriweather @NormanDunbar @terminaltilt the only thing, I've read that Tuta uses Amazon for dns (I've not looked into it any further, so I don't know if it's true o it it was true but no more o whatever)
                      @Tutanota

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                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                        Reject this future.

                        Keep your hardware local.

                        Run #Linux.

                        Own your data.

                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                        #115

                        @terminaltilt
                        My cloud lives in the garden shed in an old, well used Dell corporate desktop. Runs Nextcloud on Debian.

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                        • trimtab@mastodon.socialT trimtab@mastodon.social

                          @terminaltilt Bezos is the alternate universe inverse evil version of Patrick Stewart.... Utterly cruel, greedy, narcissistic, and uncharismatic.

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                          #116

                          @TrimTab @terminaltilt He could at least have the decency to grow a goatee.

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                          • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                            Reject this future.

                            Keep your hardware local.

                            Run #Linux.

                            Own your data.

                            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                            https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                            #117

                            @terminaltilt The industry has tried to push "thin clients", machines that can access cloud services and do nothing local, since the 1980s. Nobody ever wanted them. They failed again and again.

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                            • normandunbar@mastodon.scotN normandunbar@mastodon.scot

                              @filobus @terminaltilt What other options are there? Oracle? Microsoft? If you had to use the cloud, where do you go to avoid the big guns and trump buddies?

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                              #118

                              @NormanDunbar @terminaltilt maybe here there are some suggestions
                              https://european-alternatives.eu

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                              • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

                                @cascheranno @terminaltilt …for you, maybe. Not everybody is as computer literate.

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                                #119

                                @lerxst @terminaltilt that’s like saying ‘right to repair’ == everyone needs to be a blacksmith; not my point at all.

                                I’m just crediting the many (often unacknowledged) maker-friendly alternatives to techbros that seek to hoover up all out money and data.

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                                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                  Reject this future.

                                  Keep your hardware local.

                                  Run #Linux.

                                  Own your data.

                                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                  https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                  #120

                                  @terminaltilt They want to destroy everything!

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                                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                    Reject this future.

                                    Keep your hardware local.

                                    Run #Linux.

                                    Own your data.

                                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                    #121

                                    @terminaltilt And while you're at it, help others by organizing a Linux Repair Café

                                    https://www.repaircafe.org/en/linux-repair-cafe/

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                                    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                      Reject this future.

                                      Keep your hardware local.

                                      Run #Linux.

                                      Own your data.

                                      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                      https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                      #122

                                      @terminaltilt
                                      Everybody's gonna work for the Company Store.

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                                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                        Reject this future.

                                        Keep your hardware local.

                                        Run #Linux.

                                        Own your data.

                                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                        #123

                                        @terminaltilt as much as there is to hate about this article, the fact that windows central dot com refers to microsoft as "oft-nicknamed microslop" is delightful

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                                        • stevejb@beige.partyS stevejb@beige.party

                                          @tokyo_0 @terminaltilt AI PCs can't do AI Calculations locally. They simply have one-key access to AI. For instance a Microsoft AI computer has a Copilot key on the keyboard. All AI computing is done at data centers. No home computer has the power to do AI work.

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                                          @SteveJB @terminaltilt They're not higher specced at all? 🤔 (Or was that just for the Windows 11 bloat?)

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