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  • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

    @shadows @terminaltilt

    Well, I'm not an IT expert, so I'm not sure I got what you said to me 😅

    Isn’t data encryption on servers enough to keep my files reasonably safe from everyone, including the hosting company?

    If the system were FOSS, could a law force the provider to insert a decryption backdoor without the user knowing?

    In short terms: is on-device scanning for such systems technologically feasible?

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    #54

    @LorenzoBonomelli The most common form of encryption In The Cloud™ is the one that they do with keys that they know and control. This makes it straightforward for them to read your stuff, or pass an unencrypted copy to any other entity.

    FOSS generally makes it even easier to insert backdoors into copies that they control. It makes it more difficult to insert backdoors into the master source code, but you don't get to decide what version runs on their computers.

    It's all about who's in control.

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    • andre_ourednik@mastodon.socialA andre_ourednik@mastodon.social

      @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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      #55

      @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt IIRC, there were multiple studies on game streaming which came to the conclusion that even with a thin client, streaming consumes more energy and resources. A local gaming PC is a self-contained device. Streaming not only requires powerful data centres, but also robust infrastructure between your local device and the data centre. Furthermore, thin clients are more prone to be replaced every few years due to non-replaceable batteries and a lack of software updates.

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      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

        Reject this future.

        Keep your hardware local.

        Run #Linux.

        Own your data.

        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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        #56

        @terminaltilt

        Dear Jeff,

        And I mean this most sincerely,

        🖕 🖕

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        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

          Reject this future.

          Keep your hardware local.

          Run #Linux.

          Own your data.

          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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          #57

          @terminaltilt as long as bezos and his ilk (as in, unconstrained billionaires) exists they will not stop dreaming up ways to consolidate power and corrupts what should notionally be community resources. Mitigate the problem at the source.

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          • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

            Reject this future.

            Keep your hardware local.

            Run #Linux.

            Own your data.

            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

            https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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            #58

            @terminaltilt I feel much better about hording old computers now. When I say old, I mean around 6th gen Core i5 vintage. Amazing what these machines can do with the right Linux distro.

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            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

              Reject this future.

              Keep your hardware local.

              Run #Linux.

              Own your data.

              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

              https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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              #59

              @terminaltilt
              So many books to read (not from Amazon) may replace the need for any computers if this rental scheme comes to pass.

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              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                Reject this future.

                Keep your hardware local.

                Run #Linux.

                Own your data.

                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                #60

                @terminaltilt This is so infuriating. I am so happy that I finally decided to swith full time to Linux like 3 months ago. The thing that kept my under the microsoft thumb was a few softwares I used for work. I spent some time finding alternatives and adjusted my workflow. So worth the time and effort.

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                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                  Reject this future.

                  Keep your hardware local.

                  Run #Linux.

                  Own your data.

                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                  https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                  #61
                  @terminaltilt This Jeff Bezos quote is like 10 yr old
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                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                    Reject this future.

                    Keep your hardware local.

                    Run #Linux.

                    Own your data.

                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                    #62

                    @terminaltilt Rent to not-own

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                    • filobus@sociale.networkF filobus@sociale.network

                      @terminaltilt and if you really have to go cloud, don't go to them, don't surrender and become their captive

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                      #63

                      @filobus @terminaltilt What other options are there? Oracle? Microsoft? If you had to use the cloud, where do you go to avoid the big guns and trump buddies?

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                      • dutchking@mastodontech.deD dutchking@mastodontech.de

                        @terminaltilt

                        Meine Daten auf meine Festplatte, und das seit ich einen PC habe

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                        #64

                        @dutchking @terminaltilt Same here, I never used a cloud.

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                        • tokyo_0@mas.toT tokyo_0@mas.to

                          @terminaltilt I'm not saying you're wrong, but how can they be both wanting to kill local confusing and pushing "AI pcs" that can perform AI calculations locally at the same time?

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                          #65

                          @tokyo_0 @terminaltilt AI PCs can't do AI Calculations locally. They simply have one-key access to AI. For instance a Microsoft AI computer has a Copilot key on the keyboard. All AI computing is done at data centers. No home computer has the power to do AI work.

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                          • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                            Reject this future.

                            Keep your hardware local.

                            Run #Linux.

                            Own your data.

                            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                            https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                            #66

                            @terminaltilt Rentier class need stringing up. Or strapped down, eitherway heads must roll.

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                            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                              Reject this future.

                              Keep your hardware local.

                              Run #Linux.

                              Own your data.

                              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                              https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                              #67

                              @terminaltilt Well, didn't we have that mainframe situation when we started with computers?

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                              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                Reject this future.

                                Keep your hardware local.

                                Run #Linux.

                                Own your data.

                                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                #68

                                @terminaltilt "Reject this future. :NoAI: & Keep your hardware local." = always did & always will 😀

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                                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                  Reject this future.

                                  Keep your hardware local.

                                  Run #Linux.

                                  Own your data.

                                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                  https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                  #69

                                  @terminaltilt considering I can get work done & have fun with any of fifty different sbcs (pi & its competitors, arduino, esp32) this isn’t a dire risk.

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                                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                    Reject this future.

                                    Keep your hardware local.

                                    Run #Linux.

                                    Own your data.

                                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                    #70

                                    @terminaltilt So what can we do about it?

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                                    • cnx@awkward.placeC cnx@awkward.place

                                      You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                      @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social, this already happened, through the form of applications that are thin clients to SaaSS.

                                      Run Linux. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/tux.png" title=":tux:" />

                                      Run <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/gnu.png" title=":gnu:" /> or something idk, but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/android.png" title=":android:" />

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                                      #71
                                      @cnx @terminaltilt I use Linux. and I have never ever used any SaaS.
                                      and yes, it is Linux with only a very few GNU untils. because I can build Linux-based system without gnu utils at all. this is not important and does not have any special meaning,
                                      really, I don't like it where GNU goes nowadays and prefer to avoid it, except, maybe GCC with is not ruined yet (but they try!).
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                                      • ninesigns@birdity.clubN ninesigns@birdity.club
                                        @terminaltilt This Jeff Bezos quote is like 10 yr old
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                                        #72
                                        @ninesigns @terminaltilt yeah, it really sounds like 10 years old kid. a mentally healthy adult person cannot say such a rubbish.
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                                        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                          Reject this future.

                                          Keep your hardware local.

                                          Run #Linux.

                                          Own your data.

                                          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                          #73

                                          @terminaltilt Once they have a complete monopoly, they could charge their clients a fortune -which they would be obliged to pay, in a completely #digital society Besides, once they literally own our data juridically, they could reveal, cq sell them to any company or other instance, without even asking. - In connection with a #neofascist state, this would create hell for individuals. We would be deprived of all political, socio-economic and personal, including digital rights.

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