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  • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

    @terminaltilt
    Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
    Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

    I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
    1) my data is properly encrypted
    2) my data stays on a European server
    3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
    4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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    #84

    @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt 🤣️ I'mma call you Mark

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    • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

      @terminaltilt considering I can get work done & have fun with any of fifty different sbcs (pi & its competitors, arduino, esp32) this isn’t a dire risk.

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      #85

      @cascheranno @terminaltilt …for you, maybe. Not everybody is as computer literate.

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      • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

        @shadows @terminaltilt

        Well, I'm not an IT expert, so I'm not sure I got what you said to me 😅

        Isn’t data encryption on servers enough to keep my files reasonably safe from everyone, including the hosting company?

        If the system were FOSS, could a law force the provider to insert a decryption backdoor without the user knowing?

        In short terms: is on-device scanning for such systems technologically feasible?

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        #86

        @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt Politicians in several countries have been trying to pass laws to force companies to put backdoors in encryption. Last year the UK hit Apple with a gag order and an order to remove Advanced Data Protection in the UK. The EU is constantly fighting with chat control. I think the chat control one is trying to force it at the OS level, which would be nearly impossible to enforce for everyone if the users still control the hardware. If we all move to hosted PCs, I can’t imagine privacy will be possible for too long.

        Quickly searched links (I only have a short break to respond):
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgn1lz3v4no

        https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/after-years-controversy-eus-chat-control-nears-its-final-hurdle-what-know

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        • S shadows@beige.party

          @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt Politicians in several countries have been trying to pass laws to force companies to put backdoors in encryption. Last year the UK hit Apple with a gag order and an order to remove Advanced Data Protection in the UK. The EU is constantly fighting with chat control. I think the chat control one is trying to force it at the OS level, which would be nearly impossible to enforce for everyone if the users still control the hardware. If we all move to hosted PCs, I can’t imagine privacy will be possible for too long.

          Quickly searched links (I only have a short break to respond):
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgn1lz3v4no

          https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/after-years-controversy-eus-chat-control-nears-its-final-hurdle-what-know

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          #87

          @shadows @terminaltilt

          Well, I guess you succeeded in the impossible task of convincing someone in an online discussion!

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          • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

            Reject this future.

            Keep your hardware local.

            Run #Linux.

            Own your data.

            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

            https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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            #88

            @terminaltilt https://beige.party/@gildilinie/115897131353793243

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            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

              Reject this future.

              Keep your hardware local.

              Run #Linux.

              Own your data.

              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

              https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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              #89

              @terminaltilt So, to access this service, I'll need a keyboard, mouse monitor, and a box with a processor, ram, and ssd.. Oh - I need a computer!

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              • pa27@mastodon.socialP pa27@mastodon.social

                @terminaltilt So, to access this service, I'll need a keyboard, mouse monitor, and a box with a processor, ram, and ssd.. Oh - I need a computer!

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                #90
                @pa27 @terminaltilt Yes but a computer that only can do one thing: connect to the cloud.
                20 years ago, I used a Sun Ray. Same thing. A dumb terminal client that connected to the cloud. The cloud was a Sun E450 in the basement, but the principle is the same.
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                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                  Reject this future.

                  Keep your hardware local.

                  Run #Linux.

                  Own your data.

                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                  https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                  #91

                  Hey @pluralistic if you haven't seen @terminaltilt 's framing (above):

                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

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                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                    Reject this future.

                    Keep your hardware local.

                    Run #Linux.

                    Own your data.

                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                    #92

                    @terminaltilt Nasty.

                    How about no Jeff. Also you joined forces with Trump, so you'll fall with Trump, if there's any justice left in the world.

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                    • datum@zeroes.caD datum@zeroes.ca

                      Hey @pluralistic if you haven't seen @terminaltilt 's framing (above):

                      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

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                      #93

                      @datum @pluralistic @terminaltilt tilting on this slightly:

                      The cloud is like renting a storage cube. Charging you for space and access, possibly for useful services like preservation and access. But in the end hard to get rid of and really rooted deferred decisions around downsizing.

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                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                        Reject this future.

                        Keep your hardware local.

                        Run #Linux.

                        Own your data.

                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                        #94

                        @terminaltilt Bwahaha, you shall all be my thin clients now. Yes, excellent.

                        https://social.vivaldi.net/@cmthiede/113436258654040781

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                        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                          Reject this future.

                          Keep your hardware local.

                          Run #Linux.

                          Own your data.

                          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                          #95

                          @terminaltilt Stick that plan where the sun don't shine, Jeff.

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                          • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                            Reject this future.

                            Keep your hardware local.

                            Run #Linux.

                            Own your data.

                            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                            https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                            #96

                            @terminaltilt What part of Bezos' face is real? And why didn't he get hair plugs? #BoycottAmazon

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                            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                              Reject this future.

                              Keep your hardware local.

                              Run #Linux.

                              Own your data.

                              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                              https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                              #97

                              @terminaltilt

                              Those dumb son of a bitches can't even figure out why people refuse to upgrade to Windows 11.

                              Actually I guess, they do know why... but it doesn't stop them from trying to gaslight everybody into doing it anyway.... so they can sign up for more subscriptions.

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                              • normandunbar@mastodon.scotN normandunbar@mastodon.scot

                                @filobus @terminaltilt What other options are there? Oracle? Microsoft? If you had to use the cloud, where do you go to avoid the big guns and trump buddies?

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                                #98

                                @NormanDunbar @filobus @terminaltilt Various vendor in Europe are working on setting up their own cloud systems. Personally, I would trust a German cloud service much more than any US company. I already have a tuta.com email address.

                                (Rather ironic.)

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                                • bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB bolomkxxviii@mastodon.social

                                  @terminaltilt I feel much better about hording old computers now. When I say old, I mean around 6th gen Core i5 vintage. Amazing what these machines can do with the right Linux distro.

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                                  #99

                                  @BoloMKXXVIII

                                  I run all my old computers/laptops on Linux. Even ones going back to 2003 (albeit running only locally). I got pissed off with WinDoz somewhere about Win98 and moved to Linux. Apple has always been out of my price range. My newest (to me) laptop is a ThinkPad X240, happily running anti-X Linux.

                                  @terminaltilt

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                                  • c_merriweather@social.linux.pizzaC c_merriweather@social.linux.pizza

                                    @BoloMKXXVIII

                                    I run all my old computers/laptops on Linux. Even ones going back to 2003 (albeit running only locally). I got pissed off with WinDoz somewhere about Win98 and moved to Linux. Apple has always been out of my price range. My newest (to me) laptop is a ThinkPad X240, happily running anti-X Linux.

                                    @terminaltilt

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                                    #100

                                    @c_merriweather @terminaltilt I think I have 9 computers. Three laptops, a tablet, four Intel NUCs, one main desktop. All run various flavors of Linux. My desktop also runs Windows LTSC in a VM.

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                                    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                      Reject this future.

                                      Keep your hardware local.

                                      Run #Linux.

                                      Own your data.

                                      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                      https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                      #101

                                      @terminaltilt Why Linux? Why not BSD? 😄

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                                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                        Reject this future.

                                        Keep your hardware local.

                                        Run #Linux.

                                        Own your data.

                                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                        #102

                                        @terminaltilt Thin Client: The Next Generation

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                                        • bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB bolomkxxviii@mastodon.social

                                          @c_merriweather @terminaltilt I think I have 9 computers. Three laptops, a tablet, four Intel NUCs, one main desktop. All run various flavors of Linux. My desktop also runs Windows LTSC in a VM.

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                                          #103

                                          @BoloMKXXVIII

                                          5 computers in my case, 3 laptops, a iMacLinux, and a NUC. All Linux.

                                          Plus, I keep an old (free) laptop with XP, specifically for one program that connects to a proprietary card reader, for my old embroidery machine.

                                          @terminaltilt

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