While we do #Denmark #Danmark #USA #Greenland #Arctic drama, don't forget the #Inuit, the people who live there
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While we do #Denmark #Danmark #USA #Greenland #Arctic drama, don't forget the #Inuit, the people who live there
#AqqalukLynge, cofounder of Greenland independence party #InuitAtaqatigiit, loudly reminds the world that his homeland is a free and self-governing territory
"It’s really frustrating for us. What do you do with friends that are no longer friends? I don't know"
Whatever issues the Inuit have with #Copenhagen obviously #US #imperialism is far worse
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/greenland-threats-aqqaluk-lynge-9.7035614
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@benroyce it pains me to say it but a military response could be the only response he understands. Outside of that I have read freedom of association is most likely the option he will look at
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after one trump term perhaps
but now in 2026 trump has destroyed all trust
this is not recovering quickly
as an american i apologize, and we have a lot of cleaning up to do
do not trust us for a long time, even if you see improvement
this rests at the feet of the GOP
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if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything
this is where i place all my anger as an american
all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses
absolutely infuriates me
we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses
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@benroyce @grumble209@kolektiva.social @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn ranked choice voting for the win, it works. #vote
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@grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn
no argument
as long as you vote
harris sucked
and what is this MAGA fascism we're seeing? the same?!
if you don't vote, and en masse with all the other inflexible dreamers you therefore get worse, what is the fucking point?
better
or
worse
*all you ever fucking get in this world*
and when you choose better, you ITERATE to even better next time
THAT is how you improve the world
sitting out until perfect magically appears is impotent insanity
@benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.
Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.
Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.
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@benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn Harris probably wouldn't have sunk a bunch of boats and murdered their sailors before kidnapping Maduro and stealing Venezuela's oil, but Harris would still have supported Israel killing and starving Palestinians just like Trump does.
I'm too much of a pussy to look at a starving Palestinian orphan being expelled to Africa and say - hey, you have to understand I was voting *strategically*.
Instead, I get really, really pissed off at the party assholes who put me in this position for the sake of the convenience of their donors.
@grumble209 @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn
Yeah, Kilmar Albrego and the thousands of others with their visas revoked and deported are just delighted you care more about Palestinians than them.
And did running down Harris help the Palestinians? Of course not. So, you gave up influencing Harris for someone guaranteed to be worse.
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@benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.
Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.
Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.
@TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I'm not waiting for a perfect candidate, I'm just rejecting awful candidates.
Harris was awful. Just because Harris wasn't *unusually *awful for the kind of tools that the DNC donors fund doesn't make her less awful.
If you can stomach voting for a worse candidate than me, fine, I guess. Maybe you can eat spicier food than me, too. Or see more rotting corpses before you puke. We're all different.
We all get to decide for ourselves how bad a candidate can be before we "nope" out. I'm not going to feel bad that you and I disagree.
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"Since the 1990s, the #US has shut down its own bases in #Greenland. It's not us that have created the situation where their presence has been only up in the Thule airbase. So the United States is solely responsible for this. We haven't done anything against them
…all of us in the #Arctic must be ready for anything. And I'm sure that #Denmark and #Canada are talking to each other very closely. We are in a dangerous, very dangerous, situation right now"
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@TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I'm not waiting for a perfect candidate, I'm just rejecting awful candidates.
Harris was awful. Just because Harris wasn't *unusually *awful for the kind of tools that the DNC donors fund doesn't make her less awful.
If you can stomach voting for a worse candidate than me, fine, I guess. Maybe you can eat spicier food than me, too. Or see more rotting corpses before you puke. We're all different.
We all get to decide for ourselves how bad a candidate can be before we "nope" out. I'm not going to feel bad that you and I disagree.
@grumble209 @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn when one candidate is a literal felon, rapist, and racist and you still voted for that person, you're scum. The end.
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@benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.
Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.
Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.
@TCatInReality @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
By way of the old saying, when will people learn that they should "Never wrestle with a pig. [they'll] just get dirty and the pig enjoys it."As Einstein is reputed to have said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."
Oh well...
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@benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.
Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.
Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.
@TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
people who don't #vote love the "lesser evil" quote by #HannahArendt
the problem:
the quote is from her 1964 essay “Personal Responsibility Under Dictatorship”
she is describing life under #fascism, where people have no real choice
it has nothing to do with choice in #democracy
nonvoters are misusing her quote
if Hannah were commenting on #USA #elections today, she would say "fuck! vote, you entitled assholes!"
(she would say it nicer than that)
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@benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.
Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.
Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.
@TCatInReality @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
Remember the "Genocide Joe" misinformation campaign in the last election?
Don't vote for the guy who paused arm shipments to Israel, because he's not condemning Israel enough to satisfy you! Implying that if he's not condemning Israel, he's as good as backing them.
Instead, withhold your vote, and let Trump win! That'll show everyone!
It wasn't as good as getting the Bernie Bros in a hissy fit. There are a lot of useful tools out there.
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While we do #Denmark #Danmark #USA #Greenland #Arctic drama, don't forget the #Inuit, the people who live there
#AqqalukLynge, cofounder of Greenland independence party #InuitAtaqatigiit, loudly reminds the world that his homeland is a free and self-governing territory
"It’s really frustrating for us. What do you do with friends that are no longer friends? I don't know"
Whatever issues the Inuit have with #Copenhagen obviously #US #imperialism is far worse
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/greenland-threats-aqqaluk-lynge-9.7035614
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@benroyce "Oh yeah, America will treat Indigenous people will dignity...."
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@TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
people who don't #vote love the "lesser evil" quote by #HannahArendt
the problem:
the quote is from her 1964 essay “Personal Responsibility Under Dictatorship”
she is describing life under #fascism, where people have no real choice
it has nothing to do with choice in #democracy
nonvoters are misusing her quote
if Hannah were commenting on #USA #elections today, she would say "fuck! vote, you entitled assholes!"
(she would say it nicer than that)
@benroyce @TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
I'm a 44 year old American and what I think people don't want to acknowledge is that Americans will ABSOLUTELY shoot themselves in the foot if they believe they'll be able to put that foot on someone they don't like before they do.
Hell, if the economy is doing good enough... They'll be happy to stand on an *effigy* of someone they don't like and pull the trigger.
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@benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.
Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.
Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.
@TCatInReality @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
It seems mathematically and logically obvious that the only way to get from "evil" to "not evil" passes through "less evil," so the choice of voting for "less evil" over not voting is both obvious and essential.
(Of course, promoting and electing candidates who are better than the ones offered by the party establishments is also essential.)
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@benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".
I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.
What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.
And how many of those 'not my president' will be part of the force invading Trump's next target? Or meekly paying taxes. The Good Germans were Nazi supporters. I get the sense many Americans are pinning their hopes on the elections this year. Too little and too late.
"And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".
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yup
the americans didn't tell the danes, they just set up a secret nuclear installation in #greenland, then abandoned it, and as the ice melts it's a pollution timebomb
You are right. The people in #Greenland worries about the future consequences of that.
In 1968 an american B-52 crashed near Thule (now Pituffik) in Greenland and spread radioactive materials from the 4 hydrogen bombs it was carrying. Many of the people that cleaned up after that, got cancer.
And now the people of Greenland worries for a hostile takeover from US too
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@TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
people who don't #vote love the "lesser evil" quote by #HannahArendt
the problem:
the quote is from her 1964 essay “Personal Responsibility Under Dictatorship”
she is describing life under #fascism, where people have no real choice
it has nothing to do with choice in #democracy
nonvoters are misusing her quote
if Hannah were commenting on #USA #elections today, she would say "fuck! vote, you entitled assholes!"
(she would say it nicer than that)
@benroyce @TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
A sane voting system would resolve the misgivings about voting (e.g, ranked voting).
Most of my life I had not voted in presidential elections and thought much like the quote you refer to. I said I'd vote when I wanted to vote *for* someone, not against another.
DJT changed all that - I'll vote against pure evil any day.
But still, I'd be far more motivated to vote if I could vote my conscious (3rd party) without throwing my vote away.
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@grumble209 @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn
Yeah, Kilmar Albrego and the thousands of others with their visas revoked and deported are just delighted you care more about Palestinians than them.
And did running down Harris help the Palestinians? Of course not. So, you gave up influencing Harris for someone guaranteed to be worse.
@TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn You lost me at "influence Harris to help the Palestinians".
I not going to try to influence someone to not support murderers because her donors are their friends. She's already a sociopath. Not being a sociopath is table stakes for my vote in the future.
What's table stakes for your vote? Do you have a minimum amount of character where, below that level you won't vote for a candidate?
If you don't, I'm kind of sad for you. If you do, then this whole thread is a disagreement over where each of us draws our line.
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While we do #Denmark #Danmark #USA #Greenland #Arctic drama, don't forget the #Inuit, the people who live there
#AqqalukLynge, cofounder of Greenland independence party #InuitAtaqatigiit, loudly reminds the world that his homeland is a free and self-governing territory
"It’s really frustrating for us. What do you do with friends that are no longer friends? I don't know"
Whatever issues the Inuit have with #Copenhagen obviously #US #imperialism is far worse
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/greenland-threats-aqqaluk-lynge-9.7035614
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As with Finland in ww 2, I expect the Greenlanders, especially the Inuit, are accomplished hunters and know the terrain.
I know what I would do should my country be invaded under those circumstances. It would not end well for someone.
#Greenland would become a snow covered
version of Afghanistan for the invaders.Not exactly advisable, mister #trump.
