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  • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

    @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn Harris probably wouldn't have sunk a bunch of boats and murdered their sailors before kidnapping Maduro and stealing Venezuela's oil, but Harris would still have supported Israel killing and starving Palestinians just like Trump does.

    I'm too much of a pussy to look at a starving Palestinian orphan being expelled to Africa and say - hey, you have to understand I was voting *strategically*. 🤷

    Instead, I get really, really pissed off at the party assholes who put me in this position for the sake of the convenience of their donors.

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    #64

    @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

    no argument

    as long as you vote

    harris sucked

    and what is this MAGA fascism we're seeing? the same?!

    if you don't vote, and en masse with all the other inflexible dreamers you therefore get worse, what is the fucking point?

    better

    or

    worse

    *all you ever fucking get in this world*

    and when you choose better, you ITERATE to even better next time

    THAT is how you improve the world

    sitting out until perfect magically appears is impotent insanity

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    • stevewfolds@mastodon.worldS stevewfolds@mastodon.world

      @grammasaurus @benroyce @phl
      iirc crptome.org wrote about it ~2000.

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      #65

      @stevewfolds @benroyce @phl While the world was freaking out over Y2K?

      (only half kidding….)

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

        thank you

        i'm simply a hothead and a loudmouth

        which is not a virtue

        but it might be something like a virtue in a shit world such as it is

        any one who isn't angry isn't paying attention. so therefore all there is that i'm doing of any value is articulating anger. the tragedy would be is that is all i do. so the idea is to do that anger articulating *effectively*: actually change things

        let's see not only how i can do that, but how all of us can do that

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        #66

        @benroyce
        Ben, you're definitely a loudmouth, but a hothead? Your messages and replies are always eloquent and well thought through. A hothead loses control of themselves. I've never had the feeling you were not in control, even when seething, and rightfully so, with anger. Much appreciated!
        @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

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        • eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE eetschrijver@mastodon.social

          @benroyce
          Ben, you're definitely a loudmouth, but a hothead? Your messages and replies are always eloquent and well thought through. A hothead loses control of themselves. I've never had the feeling you were not in control, even when seething, and rightfully so, with anger. Much appreciated!
          @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

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          #67

          @Eetschrijver @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

          as a mindless contrarian, now that you've identified this line, i will do my best to cross it

          (just kidding, thanks GJ)

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          • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

            @benroyce And I must say that I find it harder by the day to hear quotes from US citizens like "I didn't vote for him", "not my president", "not in my name" and especially: "50% of us disagree".

            I get it. And I believe people when they say that. It also doesn't mean anything to me. That's internal.

            What is external, to me as a citizen of another country, is that the USA -the country, with all the history, friendship & agreements we share- is actively threatening my country with invasion & war.

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            #68

            @Pepijn
            I'd said something like this when I was on FB. Along the lines of "I'm sick of hearing these apologies. You should save that energy and GO DO SOMETHING. We don't want your apologies."

            People I've known IRL for ages, progressive types, wailed about how I was attacking them personally. "I've been crying for hours over your hatefulness. What do you expect me to do? I go to the protests in my Big Blue City!"

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @Eetschrijver @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

              as a mindless contrarian, now that you've identified this line, i will do my best to cross it

              (just kidding, thanks GJ)

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              #69

              @benroyce
              Sure, buddy!
              @NatureMC @eswag @Pepijn

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                While we do #Denmark #Danmark #USA #Greenland #Arctic drama, don't forget the #Inuit, the people who live there

                #AqqalukLynge, cofounder of Greenland independence party #InuitAtaqatigiit, loudly reminds the world that his homeland is a free and self-governing territory

                "It’s really frustrating for us. What do you do with friends that are no longer friends? I don't know"

                Whatever issues the Inuit have with #Copenhagen obviously #US #imperialism is far worse

                https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/greenland-threats-aqqaluk-lynge-9.7035614

                1/3

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                #70

                @benroyce it pains me to say it but a military response could be the only response he understands. Outside of that I have read freedom of association is most likely the option he will look at

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @ckd

                  after one trump term perhaps

                  but now in 2026 trump has destroyed all trust

                  this is not recovering quickly

                  as an american i apologize, and we have a lot of cleaning up to do

                  do not trust us for a long time, even if you see improvement

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                  #71

                  @benroyce

                  this rests at the feet of the GOP

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @Pepijn

                    if someone didn't vote, they are absolutely without a leg to stand on on anything

                    this is where i place all my anger as an american

                    all their toxic idealism, all their mindless cynicism: it's nothing more than pure unadulterated entitlement and weak stupid excuses

                    absolutely infuriates me

                    we *have* to vote to defeat this abomination. there are no excuses

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                    #72

                    @benroyce @Pepijn as an old Irish chap said to me years ago on a different subject, "it's all masturbation, loads of fuss and energy but in the end productive of nothing"

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                    • mindtgap@mastodon.socialM mindtgap@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce @grumble209@kolektiva.social @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn ranked choice voting for the win, it works. #vote

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                      #73

                      @MindTGap @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                      Love the idea of ranked choice (along with many other election reforms)

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                        no argument

                        as long as you vote

                        harris sucked

                        and what is this MAGA fascism we're seeing? the same?!

                        if you don't vote, and en masse with all the other inflexible dreamers you therefore get worse, what is the fucking point?

                        better

                        or

                        worse

                        *all you ever fucking get in this world*

                        and when you choose better, you ITERATE to even better next time

                        THAT is how you improve the world

                        sitting out until perfect magically appears is impotent insanity

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                        #74

                        @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                        Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.

                        Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.

                        Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.

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                        • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                          @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn Harris probably wouldn't have sunk a bunch of boats and murdered their sailors before kidnapping Maduro and stealing Venezuela's oil, but Harris would still have supported Israel killing and starving Palestinians just like Trump does.

                          I'm too much of a pussy to look at a starving Palestinian orphan being expelled to Africa and say - hey, you have to understand I was voting *strategically*. 🤷

                          Instead, I get really, really pissed off at the party assholes who put me in this position for the sake of the convenience of their donors.

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                          #75

                          @grumble209 @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn

                          Yeah, Kilmar Albrego and the thousands of others with their visas revoked and deported are just delighted you care more about Palestinians than them.

                          And did running down Harris help the Palestinians? Of course not. So, you gave up influencing Harris for someone guaranteed to be worse.

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                          • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                            Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.

                            Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.

                            Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.

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                            #76

                            @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I'm not waiting for a perfect candidate, I'm just rejecting awful candidates.

                            Harris was awful. Just because Harris wasn't *unusually *awful for the kind of tools that the DNC donors fund doesn't make her less awful.

                            If you can stomach voting for a worse candidate than me, fine, I guess. Maybe you can eat spicier food than me, too. Or see more rotting corpses before you puke. We're all different.

                            We all get to decide for ourselves how bad a candidate can be before we "nope" out. I'm not going to feel bad that you and I disagree.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              "Since the 1990s, the #US has shut down its own bases in #Greenland. It's not us that have created the situation where their presence has been only up in the Thule airbase. So the United States is solely responsible for this. We haven't done anything against them

                              …all of us in the #Arctic must be ready for anything. And I'm sure that #Denmark and #Canada are talking to each other very closely. We are in a dangerous, very dangerous, situation right now"

                              -#AqqalukLynge

                              #USA #Danmark #Trump

                              3/3

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                              #77

                              @benroyce
                              Just to mention that the nuclear contamination created by an accident of an reactor in Camp Century was never cleaned up when it was abandoned.

                              In any case it's not about national security, but making noise to bully allies and distract from the #Epstein files and other local issues.

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                              • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                                @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn I'm not waiting for a perfect candidate, I'm just rejecting awful candidates.

                                Harris was awful. Just because Harris wasn't *unusually *awful for the kind of tools that the DNC donors fund doesn't make her less awful.

                                If you can stomach voting for a worse candidate than me, fine, I guess. Maybe you can eat spicier food than me, too. Or see more rotting corpses before you puke. We're all different.

                                We all get to decide for ourselves how bad a candidate can be before we "nope" out. I'm not going to feel bad that you and I disagree.

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                                #78

                                @grumble209 @TCatInReality @benroyce @eswag @Pepijn when one candidate is a literal felon, rapist, and racist and you still voted for that person, you're scum. The end.

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                                • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                  Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.

                                  Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.

                                  Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.

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                                  #79

                                  @TCatInReality @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn
                                  By way of the old saying, when will people learn that they should "Never wrestle with a pig. [they'll] just get dirty and the pig enjoys it."

                                  As Einstein is reputed to have said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."

                                  Oh well...

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                                  • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                    Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.

                                    Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.

                                    Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.

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                                    #80

                                    @TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                    people who don't #vote love the "lesser evil" quote by #HannahArendt

                                    the problem:

                                    the quote is from her 1964 essay “Personal Responsibility Under Dictatorship”

                                    she is describing life under #fascism, where people have no real choice

                                    it has nothing to do with choice in #democracy

                                    nonvoters are misusing her quote

                                    if Hannah were commenting on #USA #elections today, she would say "fuck! vote, you entitled assholes!"

                                    (she would say it nicer than that)

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                                    • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                      Bless you for trying to state the obvious, @benroyce . I agree w all your points.

                                      Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is how you get less evil. I really don't understand people who fail to get that - and RUSH to the polls to ensure there is less evil.

                                      Such ideological purists don't realize they'll never get a perfect candidate in a nation of 330 million. What useful idiots for the fascists, spreading their discontent and undermining democracy.

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                                      #81

                                      @TCatInReality @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                      Remember the "Genocide Joe" misinformation campaign in the last election?

                                      Don't vote for the guy who paused arm shipments to Israel, because he's not condemning Israel enough to satisfy you! Implying that if he's not condemning Israel, he's as good as backing them.

                                      Instead, withhold your vote, and let Trump win! That'll show everyone!

                                      It wasn't as good as getting the Bernie Bros in a hissy fit. There are a lot of useful tools out there.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        While we do #Denmark #Danmark #USA #Greenland #Arctic drama, don't forget the #Inuit, the people who live there

                                        #AqqalukLynge, cofounder of Greenland independence party #InuitAtaqatigiit, loudly reminds the world that his homeland is a free and self-governing territory

                                        "It’s really frustrating for us. What do you do with friends that are no longer friends? I don't know"

                                        Whatever issues the Inuit have with #Copenhagen obviously #US #imperialism is far worse

                                        https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/greenland-threats-aqqaluk-lynge-9.7035614

                                        1/3

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                                        #82

                                        @benroyce "Oh yeah, America will treat Indigenous people will dignity...."

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                          people who don't #vote love the "lesser evil" quote by #HannahArendt

                                          the problem:

                                          the quote is from her 1964 essay “Personal Responsibility Under Dictatorship”

                                          she is describing life under #fascism, where people have no real choice

                                          it has nothing to do with choice in #democracy

                                          nonvoters are misusing her quote

                                          if Hannah were commenting on #USA #elections today, she would say "fuck! vote, you entitled assholes!"

                                          (she would say it nicer than that)

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                                          #83

                                          @benroyce @TCatInReality @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                          I'm a 44 year old American and what I think people don't want to acknowledge is that Americans will ABSOLUTELY shoot themselves in the foot if they believe they'll be able to put that foot on someone they don't like before they do.

                                          Hell, if the economy is doing good enough... They'll be happy to stand on an *effigy* of someone they don't like and pull the trigger.

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