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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

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  • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

    @Edent @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante SumUp's minimum payment amount in the UK is £1.

    Their fees are rounded to a whole number of pennies per transaction using Banker's rounding (Round Half to Even).

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    #160

    @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
    I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

    Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

    Thanks!

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    • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

      @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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      #161

      @dan @Edent By, for example, monzo to monzo, allows utf8 messages even on 1p transaction, and no fee.

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      • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

        @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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        #162

        @revk @dan
        I've seen people sending messages over banking 😄
        https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/05/to-get-my-attention-pay-me/

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        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

          @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
          I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

          Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

          Thanks!

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          #163

          @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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          • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

            @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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            #164

            @Edent SumUp and Square pay out net daily. Stripe is the worst of both worlds; they pay out net daily but do have a flat fee plus percentage fee structure so it's possible for a small transaction to be completely eaten by fees.

            (That's why, although Stripe have the best designed API for integration with POS systems, I don't support them in my POS system yet!)

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            • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

              @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

              e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

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              #165

              @revk @Edent My problem with "open forms" like that is the possible abuse factor. I have heard of PayPal and UK bank accounts being frozen for silly messages such as "For drugs".

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                #166

                @Edent the only two I've actually used - because when I looked into them they didn't have some aspect that bothered me - are LiberaPay and Kofi.

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                • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                  @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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                  #167

                  @dan you can always bounce £1 between each other as a way to send a message 😅

                  @revk @Edent

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                  • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

                    @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock Yes, the shop will have paid the transaction fee for this and it will have been a fairly large proportion of the payment.

                    Not as large in the UK as in the USA, but still a flat fee per transaction plus a percentage of the payment amount.

                    The payment providers that offer simple percentage pricing (eg. Square at 1.75% and SumUp at 1.69%) are able to do so because they insist on a minimum transaction amount of £1.

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                    #168

                    @steve @Edent @duncanlock yeah, lotta corner shops round here still say minimum £5. Even the ones that don't, i keep coins in my pocket so i can buy a drink or whatever without their share being eaten in card fees.

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      @jak2k do you use Taler?

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                      #169

                      @Edent I have the app installed and played with the demo provider.
                      It is not widely supported yet but there are some places were it is used: https://www.taler.net/de/news/2025-04.html

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        Before I go and build something, does anyone have a template for all the payment services?

                        Looking for a bunch of buttons which are *consistent* in size / shape.

                        All the official ones seem to be as different as possible!

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                        #170

                        First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                        Thoughts?

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                          Thoughts?

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                          #171

                          @Edent I've never used Ko-Wis Donen col. Are they any good?

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                            Thoughts?

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                            #172

                            @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                            • floppy@mastodon.me.ukF floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                              @Edent it’s definitely a complex problem but we need to come up with a way to do it, I think.

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                              #173

                              @Edent @Floppy Ideally it could be something in activity pub, connecting with an open kinda backend. I think it could also be useful to have paid for "followers" to see more content, as to get people in substack with a good way out.

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                Thoughts?

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                                #174

                                @Edent (I am guessing.) Your home made copies of corp branding for a project?
                                The multinationals (none consumer facing) I have worked for are very vigilant of their brand use. Not just look and feel, but were and how it is used. IME better ask them first.

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                  (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                  #175

                                  @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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                                  • knotnicky@ravenation.clubK knotnicky@ravenation.club

                                    @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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                                    #176

                                    @knotnicky you're not the first to say it.
                                    I've no idea how to integrate with them though 🙃

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                                    • tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT tychotithonus@infosec.exchange

                                      @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                                      #177

                                      @tychotithonus yup. The idea they would be in a visually distinct box saying "pay me using…"

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                        (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                        #178

                                        @Edent https://webmonetization.org/

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                                        • floppy@mastodon.me.ukF floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                                          @Edent https://webmonetization.org/

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                                          #179

                                          @floppy sadly doesn't work in the UK.

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