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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
    I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

    Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

    Thanks!

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    #163

    @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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    • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

      @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

      steve@prattle.org.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #164

      @Edent SumUp and Square pay out net daily. Stripe is the worst of both worlds; they pay out net daily but do have a flat fee plus percentage fee structure so it's possible for a small transaction to be completely eaten by fees.

      (That's why, although Stripe have the best designed API for integration with POS systems, I don't support them in my POS system yet!)

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      • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

        @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

        e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

        rbairwell@mastodon.org.ukR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #165

        @revk @Edent My problem with "open forms" like that is the possible abuse factor. I have heard of PayPal and UK bank accounts being frozen for silly messages such as "For drugs".

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        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

          If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

          (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

          geraldew@fosstodon.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #166

          @Edent the only two I've actually used - because when I looked into them they didn't have some aspect that bothered me - are LiberaPay and Kofi.

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          • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

            @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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            #167

            @dan you can always bounce £1 between each other as a way to send a message 😅

            @revk @Edent

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            • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

              @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock Yes, the shop will have paid the transaction fee for this and it will have been a fairly large proportion of the payment.

              Not as large in the UK as in the USA, but still a flat fee per transaction plus a percentage of the payment amount.

              The payment providers that offer simple percentage pricing (eg. Square at 1.75% and SumUp at 1.69%) are able to do so because they insist on a minimum transaction amount of £1.

              davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #168

              @steve @Edent @duncanlock yeah, lotta corner shops round here still say minimum £5. Even the ones that don't, i keep coins in my pocket so i can buy a drink or whatever without their share being eaten in card fees.

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                @jak2k do you use Taler?

                jak2k@mastodontech.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #169

                @Edent I have the app installed and played with the demo provider.
                It is not widely supported yet but there are some places were it is used: https://www.taler.net/de/news/2025-04.html

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  Before I go and build something, does anyone have a template for all the payment services?

                  Looking for a bunch of buttons which are *consistent* in size / shape.

                  All the official ones seem to be as different as possible!

                  edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #170

                  First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                  Thoughts?

                  pigsonthewing@mastodon.socialP tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT ho1024@mastodon.socialH 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                    Thoughts?

                    pigsonthewing@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #171

                    @Edent I've never used Ko-Wis Donen col. Are they any good?

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                      Thoughts?

                      tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #172

                      @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                      • floppy@mastodon.me.ukF floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                        @Edent it’s definitely a complex problem but we need to come up with a way to do it, I think.

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                        #173

                        @Edent @Floppy Ideally it could be something in activity pub, connecting with an open kinda backend. I think it could also be useful to have paid for "followers" to see more content, as to get people in substack with a good way out.

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                          Thoughts?

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                          #174

                          @Edent (I am guessing.) Your home made copies of corp branding for a project?
                          The multinationals (none consumer facing) I have worked for are very vigilant of their brand use. Not just look and feel, but were and how it is used. IME better ask them first.

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                            (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

                            knotnicky@ravenation.clubK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #175

                            @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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                            • knotnicky@ravenation.clubK knotnicky@ravenation.club

                              @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

                              edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #176

                              @knotnicky you're not the first to say it.
                              I've no idea how to integrate with them though 🙃

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                              • tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT tychotithonus@infosec.exchange

                                @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

                                edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #177

                                @tychotithonus yup. The idea they would be in a visually distinct box saying "pay me using…"

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                  (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

                                  floppy@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #178

                                  @Edent https://webmonetization.org/

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                                  • floppy@mastodon.me.ukF floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                                    @Edent https://webmonetization.org/

                                    edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #179

                                    @floppy sadly doesn't work in the UK.

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                                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                      If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                      (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

                                      jantietje@norden.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #180

                                      @Edent WERO.

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