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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

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  • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

    @revk @Edent Does this count as a messaging service? For a fee I can send you a message.

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    #158

    @dan @Edent When the whole OSA crap came in, this was pondered... I do not know.

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    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

      @dan @Edent When the whole OSA crap came in, this was pondered... I do not know.

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      #159

      @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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      • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

        @Edent @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante SumUp's minimum payment amount in the UK is £1.

        Their fees are rounded to a whole number of pennies per transaction using Banker's rounding (Round Half to Even).

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        #160

        @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
        I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

        Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

        Thanks!

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        • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

          @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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          #161

          @dan @Edent By, for example, monzo to monzo, allows utf8 messages even on 1p transaction, and no fee.

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          • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

            @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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            #162

            @revk @dan
            I've seen people sending messages over banking 😄
            https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/05/to-get-my-attention-pay-me/

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
              I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

              Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

              Thanks!

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              #163

              @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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              • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

                @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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                #164

                @Edent SumUp and Square pay out net daily. Stripe is the worst of both worlds; they pay out net daily but do have a flat fee plus percentage fee structure so it's possible for a small transaction to be completely eaten by fees.

                (That's why, although Stripe have the best designed API for integration with POS systems, I don't support them in my POS system yet!)

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                • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                  @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

                  e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

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                  #165

                  @revk @Edent My problem with "open forms" like that is the possible abuse factor. I have heard of PayPal and UK bank accounts being frozen for silly messages such as "For drugs".

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                    (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                    #166

                    @Edent the only two I've actually used - because when I looked into them they didn't have some aspect that bothered me - are LiberaPay and Kofi.

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                    • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                      @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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                      #167

                      @dan you can always bounce £1 between each other as a way to send a message 😅

                      @revk @Edent

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                      • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

                        @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock Yes, the shop will have paid the transaction fee for this and it will have been a fairly large proportion of the payment.

                        Not as large in the UK as in the USA, but still a flat fee per transaction plus a percentage of the payment amount.

                        The payment providers that offer simple percentage pricing (eg. Square at 1.75% and SumUp at 1.69%) are able to do so because they insist on a minimum transaction amount of £1.

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                        #168

                        @steve @Edent @duncanlock yeah, lotta corner shops round here still say minimum £5. Even the ones that don't, i keep coins in my pocket so i can buy a drink or whatever without their share being eaten in card fees.

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          @jak2k do you use Taler?

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                          #169

                          @Edent I have the app installed and played with the demo provider.
                          It is not widely supported yet but there are some places were it is used: https://www.taler.net/de/news/2025-04.html

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            Before I go and build something, does anyone have a template for all the payment services?

                            Looking for a bunch of buttons which are *consistent* in size / shape.

                            All the official ones seem to be as different as possible!

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                            #170

                            First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                            Thoughts?

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                              Thoughts?

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                              #171

                              @Edent I've never used Ko-Wis Donen col. Are they any good?

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                Thoughts?

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                                #172

                                @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                                • floppy@mastodon.me.ukF floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                                  @Edent it’s definitely a complex problem but we need to come up with a way to do it, I think.

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                                  #173

                                  @Edent @Floppy Ideally it could be something in activity pub, connecting with an open kinda backend. I think it could also be useful to have paid for "followers" to see more content, as to get people in substack with a good way out.

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                    Thoughts?

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                                    #174

                                    @Edent (I am guessing.) Your home made copies of corp branding for a project?
                                    The multinationals (none consumer facing) I have worked for are very vigilant of their brand use. Not just look and feel, but were and how it is used. IME better ask them first.

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                                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                      If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                      (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                      #175

                                      @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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                                      • knotnicky@ravenation.clubK knotnicky@ravenation.club

                                        @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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                                        #176

                                        @knotnicky you're not the first to say it.
                                        I've no idea how to integrate with them though 🙃

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                                        • tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT tychotithonus@infosec.exchange

                                          @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                                          #177

                                          @tychotithonus yup. The idea they would be in a visually distinct box saying "pay me using…"

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