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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    What if Mastodon had this button?

    (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

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    #156

    @Edent the internet would be a very different place if we could replace ads with micropayments

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    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

      @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

      e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

      dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #157

      @revk @Edent Does this count as a messaging service? For a fee I can send you a message.

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      • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

        @revk @Edent Does this count as a messaging service? For a fee I can send you a message.

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        #158

        @dan @Edent When the whole OSA crap came in, this was pondered... I do not know.

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        • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

          @dan @Edent When the whole OSA crap came in, this was pondered... I do not know.

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          #159

          @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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          • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

            @Edent @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante SumUp's minimum payment amount in the UK is £1.

            Their fees are rounded to a whole number of pennies per transaction using Banker's rounding (Round Half to Even).

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            #160

            @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
            I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

            Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

            Thanks!

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            • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

              @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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              #161

              @dan @Edent By, for example, monzo to monzo, allows utf8 messages even on 1p transaction, and no fee.

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              • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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                #162

                @revk @dan
                I've seen people sending messages over banking 😄
                https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/05/to-get-my-attention-pay-me/

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
                  I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

                  Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

                  Thanks!

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                  #163

                  @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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                  • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

                    @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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                    #164

                    @Edent SumUp and Square pay out net daily. Stripe is the worst of both worlds; they pay out net daily but do have a flat fee plus percentage fee structure so it's possible for a small transaction to be completely eaten by fees.

                    (That's why, although Stripe have the best designed API for integration with POS systems, I don't support them in my POS system yet!)

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                    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                      @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

                      e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

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                      #165

                      @revk @Edent My problem with "open forms" like that is the possible abuse factor. I have heard of PayPal and UK bank accounts being frozen for silly messages such as "For drugs".

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                        (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                        #166

                        @Edent the only two I've actually used - because when I looked into them they didn't have some aspect that bothered me - are LiberaPay and Kofi.

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                        • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                          @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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                          #167

                          @dan you can always bounce £1 between each other as a way to send a message 😅

                          @revk @Edent

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                          • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

                            @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock Yes, the shop will have paid the transaction fee for this and it will have been a fairly large proportion of the payment.

                            Not as large in the UK as in the USA, but still a flat fee per transaction plus a percentage of the payment amount.

                            The payment providers that offer simple percentage pricing (eg. Square at 1.75% and SumUp at 1.69%) are able to do so because they insist on a minimum transaction amount of £1.

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                            #168

                            @steve @Edent @duncanlock yeah, lotta corner shops round here still say minimum £5. Even the ones that don't, i keep coins in my pocket so i can buy a drink or whatever without their share being eaten in card fees.

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              @jak2k do you use Taler?

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                              #169

                              @Edent I have the app installed and played with the demo provider.
                              It is not widely supported yet but there are some places were it is used: https://www.taler.net/de/news/2025-04.html

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                Before I go and build something, does anyone have a template for all the payment services?

                                Looking for a bunch of buttons which are *consistent* in size / shape.

                                All the official ones seem to be as different as possible!

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                                #170

                                First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                Thoughts?

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                  Thoughts?

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                                  #171

                                  @Edent I've never used Ko-Wis Donen col. Are they any good?

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                    Thoughts?

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                                    #172

                                    @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                                    • floppy@mastodon.me.ukF floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                                      @Edent it’s definitely a complex problem but we need to come up with a way to do it, I think.

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                                      #173

                                      @Edent @Floppy Ideally it could be something in activity pub, connecting with an open kinda backend. I think it could also be useful to have paid for "followers" to see more content, as to get people in substack with a good way out.

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                        Thoughts?

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                                        #174

                                        @Edent (I am guessing.) Your home made copies of corp branding for a project?
                                        The multinationals (none consumer facing) I have worked for are very vigilant of their brand use. Not just look and feel, but were and how it is used. IME better ask them first.

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                                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                          If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                          (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                          #175

                                          @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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