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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

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  • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

    @dan @Edent When the whole OSA crap came in, this was pondered... I do not know.

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    #159

    @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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    • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

      @Edent @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante SumUp's minimum payment amount in the UK is £1.

      Their fees are rounded to a whole number of pennies per transaction using Banker's rounding (Round Half to Even).

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      #160

      @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
      I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

      Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

      Thanks!

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      • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

        @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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        #161

        @dan @Edent By, for example, monzo to monzo, allows utf8 messages even on 1p transaction, and no fee.

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        • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

          @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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          #162

          @revk @dan
          I've seen people sending messages over banking 😄
          https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/05/to-get-my-attention-pay-me/

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
            I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

            Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

            Thanks!

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            #163

            @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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            • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

              @Edent The "traditional" card terminal providers like Barclaycard, Dojo, Worldpay and so on will have fee structures that incorporate a fixed "authorisation fee" and then a percentage of the payment which are likely to be different for each class of card (matrix of credit, debit, domestic, international, special case for Amex); they will happily process transactions that cost the merchant more than the transaction amount. They tend to pay out gross daily and then invoice fees monthly.

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              #164

              @Edent SumUp and Square pay out net daily. Stripe is the worst of both worlds; they pay out net daily but do have a flat fee plus percentage fee structure so it's possible for a small transaction to be completely eaten by fees.

              (That's why, although Stripe have the best designed API for integration with POS systems, I don't support them in my POS system yet!)

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              • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

                e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

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                #165

                @revk @Edent My problem with "open forms" like that is the possible abuse factor. I have heard of PayPal and UK bank accounts being frozen for silly messages such as "For drugs".

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                  (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                  #166

                  @Edent the only two I've actually used - because when I looked into them they didn't have some aspect that bothered me - are LiberaPay and Kofi.

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                  • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                    @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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                    #167

                    @dan you can always bounce £1 between each other as a way to send a message 😅

                    @revk @Edent

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                    • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

                      @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock Yes, the shop will have paid the transaction fee for this and it will have been a fairly large proportion of the payment.

                      Not as large in the UK as in the USA, but still a flat fee per transaction plus a percentage of the payment amount.

                      The payment providers that offer simple percentage pricing (eg. Square at 1.75% and SumUp at 1.69%) are able to do so because they insist on a minimum transaction amount of £1.

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                      #168

                      @steve @Edent @duncanlock yeah, lotta corner shops round here still say minimum £5. Even the ones that don't, i keep coins in my pocket so i can buy a drink or whatever without their share being eaten in card fees.

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        @jak2k do you use Taler?

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                        #169

                        @Edent I have the app installed and played with the demo provider.
                        It is not widely supported yet but there are some places were it is used: https://www.taler.net/de/news/2025-04.html

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          Before I go and build something, does anyone have a template for all the payment services?

                          Looking for a bunch of buttons which are *consistent* in size / shape.

                          All the official ones seem to be as different as possible!

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                          #170

                          First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                          Thoughts?

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                            Thoughts?

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                            #171

                            @Edent I've never used Ko-Wis Donen col. Are they any good?

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                              Thoughts?

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                              #172

                              @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                              • floppy@mastodon.me.ukF floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                                @Edent it’s definitely a complex problem but we need to come up with a way to do it, I think.

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                                #173

                                @Edent @Floppy Ideally it could be something in activity pub, connecting with an open kinda backend. I think it could also be useful to have paid for "followers" to see more content, as to get people in substack with a good way out.

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  First pass at some visually consistent SVG banners - all using the official brand logos.

                                  Thoughts?

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                                  #174

                                  @Edent (I am guessing.) Your home made copies of corp branding for a project?
                                  The multinationals (none consumer facing) I have worked for are very vigilant of their brand use. Not just look and feel, but were and how it is used. IME better ask them first.

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                    (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                    #175

                                    @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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                                    • knotnicky@ravenation.clubK knotnicky@ravenation.club

                                      @Edent honestly I assume nobody else here would want this, but Apple Pay or Shop would be the least friction for me. I would press the button a lot. I guess it is not possible tho! 🤷

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                                      #176

                                      @knotnicky you're not the first to say it.
                                      I've no idea how to integrate with them though 🙃

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                                      • tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT tychotithonus@infosec.exchange

                                        @Edent Naively, looking at them cold, it might be useful if all of them had some kind of unifying common way to indicate that they are a way to tip/pay. This would allow users to get oriented quickly, even if they had never seen the platform that the person placing the badges has selected.

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                                        #177

                                        @tychotithonus yup. The idea they would be in a visually distinct box saying "pay me using…"

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                                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                          If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                                          (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

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                                          #178

                                          @Edent https://webmonetization.org/

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