Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II.
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These are now live issues. The current federal executive has put them into live question by taking the position that the executive branch is not constrained by the Constitution and relevant federal laws and may use militaristic force against Americans to implement its position. 4/
Whichever side prevails, a new constitutional settlement will be required. Implementing that settlement will involve reconstruction, as was attempted after American Civil War I and, in Europe and Japan after WW II. It may or may not require or involve explicit constitutional amendments. 5/
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@heidilifeldman I think secession or dissolution will be a post-condition of this civil war… I don’t see the United States surviving this as a unified entity.
@UweHalfHand @heidilifeldman One thing for sure: the old order is gone forever. Either the future will be fascist (followed by extinction), or the people will build a new, post-capitalist world...one with human, humane values, I hope!
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@UweHalfHand @heidilifeldman One thing for sure: the old order is gone forever. Either the future will be fascist (followed by extinction), or the people will build a new, post-capitalist world...one with human, humane values, I hope!
@Quasit @heidilifeldman I hope so too
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Whichever side prevails, a new constitutional settlement will be required. Implementing that settlement will involve reconstruction, as was attempted after American Civil War I and, in Europe and Japan after WW II. It may or may not require or involve explicit constitutional amendments. 5/
Reconstructions involve extraordinary measures, not necessarily intended to be permanent. They can be done better or worse, more or less fully. But if the American Pro-Democracy side wins, it should not expect or pursue “normal” politics and law once it controls the Congress and the executive branch. 6/
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Reconstructions involve extraordinary measures, not necessarily intended to be permanent. They can be done better or worse, more or less fully. But if the American Pro-Democracy side wins, it should not expect or pursue “normal” politics and law once it controls the Congress and the executive branch. 6/
The federal judiciary, especially the federal appellate courts, and the Supreme Court will have to be overhauled. A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/
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The federal judiciary, especially the federal appellate courts, and the Supreme Court will have to be overhauled. A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/
"A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/"
Necessary edit:
"A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, implemented, and enforced. Vigorously, with substantive consequences.. 7a/"
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The federal judiciary, especially the federal appellate courts, and the Supreme Court will have to be overhauled. A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/
The Department of Homeland Security will have to be eliminated and replaced by smaller, more clearly defined and constrained Cabinet department and subordinate agencies. A host of post-9/11 laws will have to be repealed.8/
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The Department of Homeland Security will have to be eliminated and replaced by smaller, more clearly defined and constrained Cabinet department and subordinate agencies. A host of post-9/11 laws will have to be repealed.8/
I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/
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I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/
If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10
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Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/
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Am still waiting for something i fear will never come:
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If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10
@heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio unroll
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@msbellows here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40msbellows%2F115918886297001706
Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.
Thank you!
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I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/
@heidilifeldman Elimination of the US Senate...
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I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/
@heidilifeldman I feel like if we are to be taken seriously by Allies in the future, we will need to also join the International Criminal Court and be willing to hand over any members of the Administration and military who may be brought up on charges there. We need a concrete lesson for U.S. politicians that international law matters. Our issues are not just domestic.
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@msbellows here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40msbellows%2F115918886297001706
Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.
Thank you!
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Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/
We already know that we’re which is to say the people in the US are going to have to fight an additional battle with centrists although they seem to be getting the stuffing, knocked out out of them of late and for good reason.
I have a visceral preference to restructure things from the bottom up. Citizens assemblies in that sort of thing because which of us are going to give any respect to politicians in general, except for an extra extraordinarily few.
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Ranked choice to end the 2-party, same equity extortion coin to choose from every election.
Roll back Citizens United and limit contributions to an honest day's pay.
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If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10
@heidilifeldman it seems to me that the civil war is fed vs states and for the states to prevail it means ending the federal experiment. At least temporarily to implement the necessary purge of laws and personnel. A “de-baathification” of DC. A “de-magafication” I suppose.
In the interim the states will need to replace services and use captured federal income tax dollars.
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I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/
We also - especially the Democratic party - need to understand the 10th Amendment.
In 2024, the impact of Dobbs was overestimated. The promised Roevember did not happen - at least on a federal level. Voters did come out at a state level. Almost every reproductive rights referendum on state ballots.
We need to look to 10th Amendment and states as safeguards against federal overreach.
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We also - especially the Democratic party - need to understand the 10th Amendment.
In 2024, the impact of Dobbs was overestimated. The promised Roevember did not happen - at least on a federal level. Voters did come out at a state level. Almost every reproductive rights referendum on state ballots.
We need to look to 10th Amendment and states as safeguards against federal overreach.
