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Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II.

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  • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

    The Department of Homeland Security will have to be eliminated and replaced by smaller, more clearly defined and constrained Cabinet department and subordinate agencies. A host of post-9/11 laws will have to be repealed.8/

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    #13

    I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

    heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH andres4ny@social.ridetrans.itA btrinen@social.seattle.wa.usB hey_beth@sfba.socialH fivetonsflax@tilde.zoneF 5 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

      I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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      #14

      If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10

      msbellows@c.imM codhisattva@mastodon.socialC dpontifex@infosec.exchangeD 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

        Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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        #15

        @heidilifeldman
        Am still waiting for something i fear will never come:
        The army remembers their oath to the constitution(!) and refuses to follow unlawful orders.

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        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

          If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10

          msbellows@c.imM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio unroll

          mastoreaderio@mastodon.socialM cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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          • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

            @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio unroll

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            #17

            @msbellows here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40msbellows%2F115918886297001706

            Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

            Thank you!

            okanogen@mastodon.socialO coffee2di4@glasgow.socialC 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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            • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

              I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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              #18

              @heidilifeldman Elimination of the US Senate...

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              • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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                #19

                @heidilifeldman I feel like if we are to be taken seriously by Allies in the future, we will need to also join the International Criminal Court and be willing to hand over any members of the Administration and military who may be brought up on charges there. We need a concrete lesson for U.S. politicians that international law matters. Our issues are not just domestic.

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                • mastoreaderio@mastodon.socialM mastoreaderio@mastodon.social

                  @msbellows here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40msbellows%2F115918886297001706

                  Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                  Thank you!

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                  #20

                  @mastoreaderio @msbellows@c.im
                  We need to disregard every "norm" which allows nazis to propagatic and flourish.

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                  • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                    Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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                    #21

                    @heidilifeldman

                    We already know that we’re which is to say the people in the US are going to have to fight an additional battle with centrists although they seem to be getting the stuffing, knocked out out of them of late and for good reason.

                    I have a visceral preference to restructure things from the bottom up. Citizens assemblies in that sort of thing because which of us are going to give any respect to politicians in general, except for an extra extraordinarily few.

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                    • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                      @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio unroll

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                      #22

                      @msbellows @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio

                      Ranked choice to end the 2-party, same equity extortion coin to choose from every election.

                      Roll back Citizens United and limit contributions to an honest day's pay.

                      markd@hachyderm.ioM cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC arrowbearmoore@toad.socialA regguy@mstdn.socialR 4 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                        If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10

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                        #23

                        @heidilifeldman it seems to me that the civil war is fed vs states and for the states to prevail it means ending the federal experiment. At least temporarily to implement the necessary purge of laws and personnel. A “de-baathification” of DC. A “de-magafication” I suppose.

                        In the interim the states will need to replace services and use captured federal income tax dollars.

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                        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                          I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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                          #24

                          @heidilifeldman

                          We also - especially the Democratic party - need to understand the 10th Amendment.

                          In 2024, the impact of Dobbs was overestimated. The promised Roevember did not happen - at least on a federal level. Voters did come out at a state level. Almost every reproductive rights referendum on state ballots.

                          We need to look to 10th Amendment and states as safeguards against federal overreach.

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                          • hey_beth@sfba.socialH hey_beth@sfba.social

                            @heidilifeldman

                            We also - especially the Democratic party - need to understand the 10th Amendment.

                            In 2024, the impact of Dobbs was overestimated. The promised Roevember did not happen - at least on a federal level. Voters did come out at a state level. Almost every reproductive rights referendum on state ballots.

                            We need to look to 10th Amendment and states as safeguards against federal overreach.

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                            #25

                            @Hey_Beth 💯

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                            • cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net

                              @msbellows @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio

                              Ranked choice to end the 2-party, same equity extortion coin to choose from every election.

                              Roll back Citizens United and limit contributions to an honest day's pay.

                              markd@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #26

                              @cmthiede @msbellows @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio Politicians must have no say in any aspect of elections. They must all be run by a completely autonomous body with power to punish offenders and adapt to innovative manipulations.

                              Jerrymandering, voter disenfranchisement, voter ID, age restrictions, incarceration restrictions, ballot locations and ballot stuffing are examples of how politicians will manipulate any and every chink in the electoral armor to their advantage.

                              I would also introduce compulsory voting as a means of tempering extremism and minimising the attack surface for disenfranchising strategies.

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                              • cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net

                                @msbellows @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio

                                Ranked choice to end the 2-party, same equity extortion coin to choose from every election.

                                Roll back Citizens United and limit contributions to an honest day's pay.

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                                #27

                                @msbellows @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio

                                Oh, and a real ban on insider trading by Congress members, not the watered down version they're currently offering, thinking people will only read the title. Lock down the trades when taking the role, open them back upon leaving. Otherwise, it gets turned into a Rubik's Cube and handed to a financial firm on a government approved list, audited by an independent committee.

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                                • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                  I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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                                  #28

                                  @heidilifeldman Josh Marshall’s list is somewhat more inclusive: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-status-interview-or-how-to-write-up-a-senate-purge-list

                                  Here are some other actions a post-Trump reconstruction government might consider:

                                  - force breakup of media monopolies
                                  - denazify public bodies at all levels of government
                                  - double or triple the size of the House of Representatives
                                  - eliminate or reform the Senate

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                                  • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                    Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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                                    #29

                                    @heidilifeldman

                                    Democracy was never meant to be done by election. Athenians knew it would captured by oligarchs. It was meant to be by sortition.
                                    I modified this idea & how it could be structured & why. What I envision is completely different to what we have now. It’s a different democratic model, using a version of sortition. What I envision is practical & develops interdependence, understanding, experience, skills, while solving real problems.
                                    https://mastodon.social/@JoBlakely/110531598480099232

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                                    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                      Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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                                      #30

                                      @heidilifeldman I wonder if there is a more precise term than civil war, where one or more groups of citizens are at war with each other.

                                      This situation, when the government is waging war with one group of citizens (supposedly) on behalf of another, may not have a commonly used term to accurately describe it.

                                      I think it's an important distinction, because Americans are not fighting Americans, even if some in government would love to change that. We shouldn't help them normalize the idea.

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                                      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                        Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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                                        #31

                                        @heidilifeldman Very nice and informative thread!

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                                        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                          Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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                                          #32

                                          @heidilifeldman Hard agree.

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