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Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II.

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    #1

    Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

    heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH grootinside@troet.cafeG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG joblakely@mastodon.socialJ dcdeejay@mastodon.onlineD 16 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

      Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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      Civil wars don’t follow a template. Secession is not a necessary condition for an American civil war. In this case, our civil war is over the following political-existential constitutional questions: 2/

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      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

        Civil wars don’t follow a template. Secession is not a necessary condition for an American civil war. In this case, our civil war is over the following political-existential constitutional questions: 2/

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        #3

        a. Whether the executive branch of the federal government is constrained by the U.S. Constitution laws, passed by Congress, and, when necessary, reiterated by the judicial branch.
        b. Whether the executive branch may ignore the Constitutionally-defined sovereignty of states. 3/

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        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

          a. Whether the executive branch of the federal government is constrained by the U.S. Constitution laws, passed by Congress, and, when necessary, reiterated by the judicial branch.
          b. Whether the executive branch may ignore the Constitutionally-defined sovereignty of states. 3/

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          #4

          These are now live issues. The current federal executive has put them into live question by taking the position that the executive branch is not constrained by the Constitution and relevant federal laws and may use militaristic force against Americans to implement its position. 4/

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          • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

            Civil wars don’t follow a template. Secession is not a necessary condition for an American civil war. In this case, our civil war is over the following political-existential constitutional questions: 2/

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            #5

            @heidilifeldman I think secession or dissolution will be a post-condition of this civil war… I don’t see the United States surviving this as a unified entity.

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            • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

              These are now live issues. The current federal executive has put them into live question by taking the position that the executive branch is not constrained by the Constitution and relevant federal laws and may use militaristic force against Americans to implement its position. 4/

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              #6

              Whichever side prevails, a new constitutional settlement will be required. Implementing that settlement will involve reconstruction, as was attempted after American Civil War I and, in Europe and Japan after WW II. It may or may not require or involve explicit constitutional amendments. 5/

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              • uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU uwehalfhand@norcal.social

                @heidilifeldman I think secession or dissolution will be a post-condition of this civil war… I don’t see the United States surviving this as a unified entity.

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                #7

                @UweHalfHand @heidilifeldman One thing for sure: the old order is gone forever. Either the future will be fascist (followed by extinction), or the people will build a new, post-capitalist world...one with human, humane values, I hope!

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                • quasit@kolektiva.socialQ quasit@kolektiva.social

                  @UweHalfHand @heidilifeldman One thing for sure: the old order is gone forever. Either the future will be fascist (followed by extinction), or the people will build a new, post-capitalist world...one with human, humane values, I hope!

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                  #8

                  @Quasit @heidilifeldman I hope so too

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                  • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                    Whichever side prevails, a new constitutional settlement will be required. Implementing that settlement will involve reconstruction, as was attempted after American Civil War I and, in Europe and Japan after WW II. It may or may not require or involve explicit constitutional amendments. 5/

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                    #9

                    Reconstructions involve extraordinary measures, not necessarily intended to be permanent. They can be done better or worse, more or less fully. But if the American Pro-Democracy side wins, it should not expect or pursue “normal” politics and law once it controls the Congress and the executive branch. 6/

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                    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                      Reconstructions involve extraordinary measures, not necessarily intended to be permanent. They can be done better or worse, more or less fully. But if the American Pro-Democracy side wins, it should not expect or pursue “normal” politics and law once it controls the Congress and the executive branch. 6/

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                      #10

                      The federal judiciary, especially the federal appellate courts, and the Supreme Court will have to be overhauled. A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/

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                      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                        The federal judiciary, especially the federal appellate courts, and the Supreme Court will have to be overhauled. A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/

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                        #11

                        @heidilifeldman

                        "A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/"

                        Necessary edit:

                        "A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, implemented, and enforced. Vigorously, with substantive consequences.. 7a/"

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                        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                          The federal judiciary, especially the federal appellate courts, and the Supreme Court will have to be overhauled. A host of constraints on the executive branch will have to legislated, enacted, and implemented. 7/

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                          #12

                          The Department of Homeland Security will have to be eliminated and replaced by smaller, more clearly defined and constrained Cabinet department and subordinate agencies. A host of post-9/11 laws will have to be repealed.8/

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                          • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                            The Department of Homeland Security will have to be eliminated and replaced by smaller, more clearly defined and constrained Cabinet department and subordinate agencies. A host of post-9/11 laws will have to be repealed.8/

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                            #13

                            I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

                            heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH andres4ny@social.ridetrans.itA btrinen@social.seattle.wa.usB hey_beth@sfba.socialH fivetonsflax@tilde.zoneF 5 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                            • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                              I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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                              #14

                              If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10

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                              • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                Historians will, I predict, regard the current situation as the American Civil War II. Certainly we are in a civil war, instigated by the federal government, when it began sending unnecessary and militarized forces into American cities. (See pinned post.) 1/

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                                #15

                                @heidilifeldman
                                Am still waiting for something i fear will never come:
                                The army remembers their oath to the constitution(!) and refuses to follow unlawful orders.

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                                • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                  If you are on the side of American Democracy in the currently unfolding American Civil War II and elections are held, vote for candidates that understand the war and what will required if our side prevails. 10/10

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                                  #16

                                  @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio unroll

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                                  • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                                    @heidilifeldman @mastoreaderio unroll

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                                    #17

                                    @msbellows here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40msbellows%2F115918886297001706

                                    Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                                    Thank you!

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                                    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                      I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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                                      #18

                                      @heidilifeldman Elimination of the US Senate...

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                                      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                        I have named necessary features of an American Democracy reconstruction. There may or may not be others, e.g. reform or elimination of the electoral college. 9/

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                                        #19

                                        @heidilifeldman I feel like if we are to be taken seriously by Allies in the future, we will need to also join the International Criminal Court and be willing to hand over any members of the Administration and military who may be brought up on charges there. We need a concrete lesson for U.S. politicians that international law matters. Our issues are not just domestic.

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                                        • mastoreaderio@mastodon.socialM mastoreaderio@mastodon.social

                                          @msbellows here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40msbellows%2F115918886297001706

                                          Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                                          Thank you!

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                                          #20

                                          @mastoreaderio @msbellows@c.im
                                          We need to disregard every "norm" which allows nazis to propagatic and flourish.

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