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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

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  • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

    @lokjo Is this not just an OpenStreetMap frontend?

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    #10

    @kbm0

    It works on OSM indeed, but OSM.org is just for data updates, so we build a comfortable UI around it for the regular people to just use it as it's supposed to be.

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    • sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS sonjavan62@mastodon.nl

      @lokjo great! Are you thinking about an app on cell phones? That would me wanna use it instead of Google maps.

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      #11

      @sonjavan62

      We're not using an app because they are mainly for data-collecting use.

      You can just use it in a browser, most settings are in the URL so when you can just add a hyperlink to your homescreen to 'open' it, like an app.

      mikka@medic.cafeM sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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      • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

        Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

        No cookies, no data, no nothing.

        When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

        https://lokjo.com

        Support us if you can by a donation here:
        https://www.lokjo.com/donate

        Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

        #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

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        #12

        @lokjo So, what other than simple OSM tiles and missing 95% of the Overpass results is there to this?

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        • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

          @vfrmedia @NatureMC

          It works on OSM data indeed. 🙂

          If there'S something to correct you can correct it with https://streetcomplete.app , or https://www.mapcomplete.org or -if you have an account- on https://OSM.org

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          #13

          @lokjo @NatureMC

          Thing is I already did that some 5 months ago, but whatever service shows the OSM tiles isn't yet reflecting this changeset (it does appear on OSMAnd and the main openstreetmap)

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          • mikka@medic.cafeM mikka@medic.cafe

            @lokjo So, what other than simple OSM tiles and missing 95% of the Overpass results is there to this?

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            #14

            @mikka

            These are not OSM tiles. It's also not using Overpass.

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            • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

              @lokjo @NatureMC

              Thing is I already did that some 5 months ago, but whatever service shows the OSM tiles isn't yet reflecting this changeset (it does appear on OSMAnd and the main openstreetmap)

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              #15

              @vfrmedia @NatureMC

              We're using Geoapify for tiles and pois, they might have a little lag, that's just something not easy to go around.

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              • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                @sonjavan62

                We're not using an app because they are mainly for data-collecting use.

                You can just use it in a browser, most settings are in the URL so when you can just add a hyperlink to your homescreen to 'open' it, like an app.

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                #16

                @lokjo @sonjavan62 That's objectively wrong. CoMaps does not collect your data, which is easily verified, and offers the (missing in ANY web app) caching of tiles. Instead, you're handing my data to unpkg.com (mapbox.js), which is not in EU, either.

                Add to this this tidbit: "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." and you're not an alternative. Not by a long shot. That is, by the way, our community clinic. Guess if someone's in a crisis and tries to find the closest clinic, they better use Google. Of if they're looking to buy groceries, because all those are "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." as well.

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                • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                  @mikka

                  These are not OSM tiles. It's also not using Overpass.

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                  #17

                  @lokjo Oh, sorry, OpenMapTiles, which were generated from OSM data. And maybe you should, considering how little data a search returns. Except for the already mentioned "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support."

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                  • mikka@medic.cafeM mikka@medic.cafe

                    @lokjo @sonjavan62 That's objectively wrong. CoMaps does not collect your data, which is easily verified, and offers the (missing in ANY web app) caching of tiles. Instead, you're handing my data to unpkg.com (mapbox.js), which is not in EU, either.

                    Add to this this tidbit: "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." and you're not an alternative. Not by a long shot. That is, by the way, our community clinic. Guess if someone's in a crisis and tries to find the closest clinic, they better use Google. Of if they're looking to buy groceries, because all those are "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." as well.

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                    #18

                    @mikka @sonjavan62

                    Mapbox is the last little non european thing we have and we only use it for routing.

                    When someone is in a crisis, thery better call the emergency number. Never trust on ANY app for that, this is clearly stated in ANY service.

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                    • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                      @vfrmedia @NatureMC

                      We're using Geoapify for tiles and pois, they might have a little lag, that's just something not easy to go around.

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                      #19

                      @lokjo @NatureMC

                      I did try to find out what version of OSM base data they were using but it is indeed not that easy to find (some other OSM-based services will tell you when everything was last updated). 5 months does seem like a very long time though compared to other OSM-based services (many of which have monthly updates or even quicker)

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                      • mikka@medic.cafeM mikka@medic.cafe

                        @lokjo Oh, sorry, OpenMapTiles, which were generated from OSM data. And maybe you should, considering how little data a search returns. Except for the already mentioned "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support."

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                        #20

                        @mikka

                        Not sure what you are searching for, but if there are only corporate/chain results, then it's a sign that there are only corporate/chain locations.

                        We just show what is there, accoring to OSM data.

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                        • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                          @lokjo @NatureMC

                          I did try to find out what version of OSM base data they were using but it is indeed not that easy to find (some other OSM-based services will tell you when everything was last updated). 5 months does seem like a very long time though compared to other OSM-based services (many of which have monthly updates or even quicker)

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                          #21

                          @vfrmedia @NatureMC

                          It'S a german service with local servers, and they do state they update often.

                          As always this can mean anything but I'll double check with them to get more details. thanks for the feedback. 🙂

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                          • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                            @vfrmedia @NatureMC

                            It'S a german service with local servers, and they do state they update often.

                            As always this can mean anything but I'll double check with them to get more details. thanks for the feedback. 🙂

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                            #22

                            @lokjo @NatureMC

                            its any help I've noticed that when I use OSMAnd I had to select blocks of countries I regularly visit to tag them for updates (in my case its only the UK), so maybe there are different update schemes for different countries or something needs to be activated for whole of Europe.

                            If you are tagging independent shops/organisations these can appear or close/change hands very quickly, so regular updates (ideally every month) would be essential for accuracy..

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                            • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                              Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                              No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                              When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                              https://lokjo.com

                              Support us if you can by a donation here:
                              https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                              Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                              #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

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                              #23

                              @lokjo map doesn't display on Ironfox or Librewolf. No errors.

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                              • E ef@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                @lokjo map doesn't display on Ironfox or Librewolf. No errors.

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                                #24

                                @EF

                                Here on Librewolf it displays.

                                Please note they are vector tiles, so you need to activate WebGL. (in the future we'll try to add an option for raster tiles again)

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                                • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                  Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                                  No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                                  When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                                  https://lokjo.com

                                  Support us if you can by a donation here:
                                  https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                                  Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                                  #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

                                  heyimdaf@glauca.spaceH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #25

                                  @lokjo this is really cool!! i’ll give it a try on my trip!

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                                  • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                    Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                                    No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                                    When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                                    https://lokjo.com

                                    Support us if you can by a donation here:
                                    https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                                    Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                                    #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

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                                    #26

                                    @lokjo
                                    Great but change the "Quick" button. It's only because I read your post that I knew I could filter/Find in that way.

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                                    • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                      Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                                      No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                                      When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                                      https://lokjo.com

                                      Support us if you can by a donation here:
                                      https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                                      Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                                      #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

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                                      #27

                                      @lokjo Sweet!!

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                                      • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                        Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                                        No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                                        When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                                        https://lokjo.com

                                        Support us if you can by a donation here:
                                        https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                                        Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                                        #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

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                                        #28

                                        @lokjo Can I use it for searching places via Firefox bar? I think I'd need some sort of GET requests support like https://lokjo.com/?q=berlin. Does it work somehow?

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                                        • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                          Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                                          No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                                          When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                                          https://lokjo.com

                                          Support us if you can by a donation here:
                                          https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                                          Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                                          #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

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                                          #29

                                          @lokjo How do you define "corporation or chain"? It's mostly wrong for what I've seen around here.

                                          Also, how exactly is a shop supposed be not some kind of corporation?

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