Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo great! Are you thinking about an app on cell phones? That would me wanna use it instead of Google maps.
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@lokjo I just tried it for my region (France/Germany). Is it a beta version of a future project?
I live in a white empty place of paradise, even houses from the early 20th century have been erased. A castle has changed into a rectangular basin of water. But I can find a petrol source in a forest where never was one. I like this parallel world, it's quite funny, but I wouldn't use it for finding reality-roads.
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@lokjo great! Are you thinking about an app on cell phones? That would me wanna use it instead of Google maps.
@sonjavan62 @lokjo you might wanna check out @CoMaps, it's using the same map source (OpenStreetMap).
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@lokjo It works! A bit fiddly at first when giving location permission, doesn’t seem to be immediate when granted. Tried on iOS with Orion, Safari and Chrome
Thanks for the feedback, does it work after all at not at all on these browsers?
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It works on OSM data indeed.
If there'S something to correct you can correct it with https://streetcomplete.app , or https://www.mapcomplete.org or -if you have an account- on https://OSM.org
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@lokjo Is this not just an OpenStreetMap frontend?
It works on OSM indeed, but OSM.org is just for data updates, so we build a comfortable UI around it for the regular people to just use it as it's supposed to be.
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@lokjo great! Are you thinking about an app on cell phones? That would me wanna use it instead of Google maps.
We're not using an app because they are mainly for data-collecting use.
You can just use it in a browser, most settings are in the URL so when you can just add a hyperlink to your homescreen to 'open' it, like an app.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo So, what other than simple OSM tiles and missing 95% of the Overpass results is there to this?
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It works on OSM data indeed.
If there'S something to correct you can correct it with https://streetcomplete.app , or https://www.mapcomplete.org or -if you have an account- on https://OSM.org
Thing is I already did that some 5 months ago, but whatever service shows the OSM tiles isn't yet reflecting this changeset (it does appear on OSMAnd and the main openstreetmap)
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@lokjo So, what other than simple OSM tiles and missing 95% of the Overpass results is there to this?
These are not OSM tiles. It's also not using Overpass.
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We're using Geoapify for tiles and pois, they might have a little lag, that's just something not easy to go around.
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We're not using an app because they are mainly for data-collecting use.
You can just use it in a browser, most settings are in the URL so when you can just add a hyperlink to your homescreen to 'open' it, like an app.
@lokjo @sonjavan62 That's objectively wrong. CoMaps does not collect your data, which is easily verified, and offers the (missing in ANY web app) caching of tiles. Instead, you're handing my data to unpkg.com (mapbox.js), which is not in EU, either.
Add to this this tidbit: "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." and you're not an alternative. Not by a long shot. That is, by the way, our community clinic. Guess if someone's in a crisis and tries to find the closest clinic, they better use Google. Of if they're looking to buy groceries, because all those are "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." as well.
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These are not OSM tiles. It's also not using Overpass.
@lokjo Oh, sorry, OpenMapTiles, which were generated from OSM data. And maybe you should, considering how little data a search returns. Except for the already mentioned "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support."
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@lokjo @sonjavan62 That's objectively wrong. CoMaps does not collect your data, which is easily verified, and offers the (missing in ANY web app) caching of tiles. Instead, you're handing my data to unpkg.com (mapbox.js), which is not in EU, either.
Add to this this tidbit: "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." and you're not an alternative. Not by a long shot. That is, by the way, our community clinic. Guess if someone's in a crisis and tries to find the closest clinic, they better use Google. Of if they're looking to buy groceries, because all those are "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." as well.
Mapbox is the last little non european thing we have and we only use it for routing.
When someone is in a crisis, thery better call the emergency number. Never trust on ANY app for that, this is clearly stated in ANY service. -
I did try to find out what version of OSM base data they were using but it is indeed not that easy to find (some other OSM-based services will tell you when everything was last updated). 5 months does seem like a very long time though compared to other OSM-based services (many of which have monthly updates or even quicker)
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@lokjo Oh, sorry, OpenMapTiles, which were generated from OSM data. And maybe you should, considering how little data a search returns. Except for the already mentioned "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support."
Not sure what you are searching for, but if there are only corporate/chain results, then it's a sign that there are only corporate/chain locations.
We just show what is there, accoring to OSM data.
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I did try to find out what version of OSM base data they were using but it is indeed not that easy to find (some other OSM-based services will tell you when everything was last updated). 5 months does seem like a very long time though compared to other OSM-based services (many of which have monthly updates or even quicker)
It'S a german service with local servers, and they do state they update often.
As always this can mean anything but I'll double check with them to get more details. thanks for the feedback.
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its any help I've noticed that when I use OSMAnd I had to select blocks of countries I regularly visit to tag them for updates (in my case its only the UK), so maybe there are different update schemes for different countries or something needs to be activated for whole of Europe.
If you are tagging independent shops/organisations these can appear or close/change hands very quickly, so regular updates (ideally every month) would be essential for accuracy..
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo map doesn't display on Ironfox or Librewolf. No errors.
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@lokjo map doesn't display on Ironfox or Librewolf. No errors.
Here on Librewolf it displays.
Please note they are vector tiles, so you need to activate WebGL. (in the future we'll try to add an option for raster tiles again)
