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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

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  • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
    lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
    lokjo@mapstodon.space
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    #1

    Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

    No cookies, no data, no nothing.

    When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

    https://lokjo.com

    Support us if you can by a donation here:
    https://www.lokjo.com/donate

    Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

    #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

    B naturemc@mastodon.onlineN kbm0@mastodon.socialK sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS mikka@medic.cafeM 25 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

      Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

      No cookies, no data, no nothing.

      When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

      https://lokjo.com

      Support us if you can by a donation here:
      https://www.lokjo.com/donate

      Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

      #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

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      benjamin@mastodon.ie
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      #2

      @lokjo It works! A bit fiddly at first when giving location permission, doesn’t seem to be immediate when granted. Tried on iOS with Orion, Safari and Chrome

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      • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

        Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

        No cookies, no data, no nothing.

        When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

        https://lokjo.com

        Support us if you can by a donation here:
        https://www.lokjo.com/donate

        Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

        #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

        naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
        naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
        naturemc@mastodon.online
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        #3

        @lokjo I just tried it for my region (France/Germany). Is it a beta version of a future project?

        I live in a white empty place of paradise, even houses from the early 20th century have been erased. A castle has changed into a rectangular basin of water. But I can find a petrol source in a forest where never was one. I like this parallel world, it's quite funny, but I wouldn't use it for finding reality-roads. 😁

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        • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

          Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

          No cookies, no data, no nothing.

          When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

          https://lokjo.com

          Support us if you can by a donation here:
          https://www.lokjo.com/donate

          Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

          #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

          kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
          kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
          kbm0@mastodon.social
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          #4

          @lokjo Is this not just an OpenStreetMap frontend?

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          • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

            Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

            No cookies, no data, no nothing.

            When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

            https://lokjo.com

            Support us if you can by a donation here:
            https://www.lokjo.com/donate

            Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

            #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

            sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
            sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
            sonjavan62@mastodon.nl
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            #5

            @lokjo great! Are you thinking about an app on cell phones? That would me wanna use it instead of Google maps.

            noodlejetski@masto.aiN lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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            • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

              @lokjo I just tried it for my region (France/Germany). Is it a beta version of a future project?

              I live in a white empty place of paradise, even houses from the early 20th century have been erased. A castle has changed into a rectangular basin of water. But I can find a petrol source in a forest where never was one. I like this parallel world, it's quite funny, but I wouldn't use it for finding reality-roads. 😁

              vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
              vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
              vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
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              #6

              @NatureMC @lokjo it looks like OSM based but it using a rather old dataset for my area - the community radio station is in the wrong place (old building) and I know on the main OSM its in the correct place in the new building as I put it there!

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              • sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS sonjavan62@mastodon.nl

                @lokjo great! Are you thinking about an app on cell phones? That would me wanna use it instead of Google maps.

                noodlejetski@masto.aiN This user is from outside of this forum
                noodlejetski@masto.aiN This user is from outside of this forum
                noodlejetski@masto.ai
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                #7

                @sonjavan62 @lokjo you might wanna check out @CoMaps, it's using the same map source (OpenStreetMap).

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                • B benjamin@mastodon.ie

                  @lokjo It works! A bit fiddly at first when giving location permission, doesn’t seem to be immediate when granted. Tried on iOS with Orion, Safari and Chrome

                  lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                  #8

                  @Benjamin

                  Thanks for the feedback, does it work after all at not at all on these browsers?

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                  • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                    @NatureMC @lokjo it looks like OSM based but it using a rather old dataset for my area - the community radio station is in the wrong place (old building) and I know on the main OSM its in the correct place in the new building as I put it there!

                    lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                    lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                    lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                    #9

                    @vfrmedia @NatureMC

                    It works on OSM data indeed. 🙂

                    If there'S something to correct you can correct it with https://streetcomplete.app , or https://www.mapcomplete.org or -if you have an account- on https://OSM.org

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                    • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

                      @lokjo Is this not just an OpenStreetMap frontend?

                      lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                      lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                      lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                      #10

                      @kbm0

                      It works on OSM indeed, but OSM.org is just for data updates, so we build a comfortable UI around it for the regular people to just use it as it's supposed to be.

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                      • sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS sonjavan62@mastodon.nl

                        @lokjo great! Are you thinking about an app on cell phones? That would me wanna use it instead of Google maps.

                        lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                        lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
                        lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                        #11

                        @sonjavan62

                        We're not using an app because they are mainly for data-collecting use.

                        You can just use it in a browser, most settings are in the URL so when you can just add a hyperlink to your homescreen to 'open' it, like an app.

                        mikka@medic.cafeM sonjavan62@mastodon.nlS 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                        • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                          Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                          No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                          When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                          https://lokjo.com

                          Support us if you can by a donation here:
                          https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                          Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                          #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

                          mikka@medic.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mikka@medic.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mikka@medic.cafe
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                          #12

                          @lokjo So, what other than simple OSM tiles and missing 95% of the Overpass results is there to this?

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                          • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                            @vfrmedia @NatureMC

                            It works on OSM data indeed. 🙂

                            If there'S something to correct you can correct it with https://streetcomplete.app , or https://www.mapcomplete.org or -if you have an account- on https://OSM.org

                            vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
                            vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
                            vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
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                            #13

                            @lokjo @NatureMC

                            Thing is I already did that some 5 months ago, but whatever service shows the OSM tiles isn't yet reflecting this changeset (it does appear on OSMAnd and the main openstreetmap)

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                            • mikka@medic.cafeM mikka@medic.cafe

                              @lokjo So, what other than simple OSM tiles and missing 95% of the Overpass results is there to this?

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                              lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                              #14

                              @mikka

                              These are not OSM tiles. It's also not using Overpass.

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                              • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                                @lokjo @NatureMC

                                Thing is I already did that some 5 months ago, but whatever service shows the OSM tiles isn't yet reflecting this changeset (it does appear on OSMAnd and the main openstreetmap)

                                lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                                #15

                                @vfrmedia @NatureMC

                                We're using Geoapify for tiles and pois, they might have a little lag, that's just something not easy to go around.

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                                • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                  @sonjavan62

                                  We're not using an app because they are mainly for data-collecting use.

                                  You can just use it in a browser, most settings are in the URL so when you can just add a hyperlink to your homescreen to 'open' it, like an app.

                                  mikka@medic.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mikka@medic.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mikka@medic.cafe
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                                  #16

                                  @lokjo @sonjavan62 That's objectively wrong. CoMaps does not collect your data, which is easily verified, and offers the (missing in ANY web app) caching of tiles. Instead, you're handing my data to unpkg.com (mapbox.js), which is not in EU, either.

                                  Add to this this tidbit: "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." and you're not an alternative. Not by a long shot. That is, by the way, our community clinic. Guess if someone's in a crisis and tries to find the closest clinic, they better use Google. Of if they're looking to buy groceries, because all those are "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." as well.

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                                  • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                    @mikka

                                    These are not OSM tiles. It's also not using Overpass.

                                    mikka@medic.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    mikka@medic.cafe
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                                    #17

                                    @lokjo Oh, sorry, OpenMapTiles, which were generated from OSM data. And maybe you should, considering how little data a search returns. Except for the already mentioned "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support."

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                                    • mikka@medic.cafeM mikka@medic.cafe

                                      @lokjo @sonjavan62 That's objectively wrong. CoMaps does not collect your data, which is easily verified, and offers the (missing in ANY web app) caching of tiles. Instead, you're handing my data to unpkg.com (mapbox.js), which is not in EU, either.

                                      Add to this this tidbit: "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." and you're not an alternative. Not by a long shot. That is, by the way, our community clinic. Guess if someone's in a crisis and tries to find the closest clinic, they better use Google. Of if they're looking to buy groceries, because all those are "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." as well.

                                      lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                                      #18

                                      @mikka @sonjavan62

                                      Mapbox is the last little non european thing we have and we only use it for routing.

                                      When someone is in a crisis, thery better call the emergency number. Never trust on ANY app for that, this is clearly stated in ANY service.

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                                      • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                        @vfrmedia @NatureMC

                                        We're using Geoapify for tiles and pois, they might have a little lag, that's just something not easy to go around.

                                        vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
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                                        #19

                                        @lokjo @NatureMC

                                        I did try to find out what version of OSM base data they were using but it is indeed not that easy to find (some other OSM-based services will tell you when everything was last updated). 5 months does seem like a very long time though compared to other OSM-based services (many of which have monthly updates or even quicker)

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                                        • mikka@medic.cafeM mikka@medic.cafe

                                          @lokjo Oh, sorry, OpenMapTiles, which were generated from OSM data. And maybe you should, considering how little data a search returns. Except for the already mentioned "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support."

                                          lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          lokjo@mapstodon.space
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                                          #20

                                          @mikka

                                          Not sure what you are searching for, but if there are only corporate/chain results, then it's a sign that there are only corporate/chain locations.

                                          We just show what is there, accoring to OSM data.

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