Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
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@lokjo @sonjavan62 That's objectively wrong. CoMaps does not collect your data, which is easily verified, and offers the (missing in ANY web app) caching of tiles. Instead, you're handing my data to unpkg.com (mapbox.js), which is not in EU, either.
Add to this this tidbit: "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." and you're not an alternative. Not by a long shot. That is, by the way, our community clinic. Guess if someone's in a crisis and tries to find the closest clinic, they better use Google. Of if they're looking to buy groceries, because all those are "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support." as well.
Mapbox is the last little non european thing we have and we only use it for routing.
When someone is in a crisis, thery better call the emergency number. Never trust on ANY app for that, this is clearly stated in ANY service. -
I did try to find out what version of OSM base data they were using but it is indeed not that easy to find (some other OSM-based services will tell you when everything was last updated). 5 months does seem like a very long time though compared to other OSM-based services (many of which have monthly updates or even quicker)
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@lokjo Oh, sorry, OpenMapTiles, which were generated from OSM data. And maybe you should, considering how little data a search returns. Except for the already mentioned "Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support."
Not sure what you are searching for, but if there are only corporate/chain results, then it's a sign that there are only corporate/chain locations.
We just show what is there, accoring to OSM data.
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I did try to find out what version of OSM base data they were using but it is indeed not that easy to find (some other OSM-based services will tell you when everything was last updated). 5 months does seem like a very long time though compared to other OSM-based services (many of which have monthly updates or even quicker)
It'S a german service with local servers, and they do state they update often.
As always this can mean anything but I'll double check with them to get more details. thanks for the feedback.
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its any help I've noticed that when I use OSMAnd I had to select blocks of countries I regularly visit to tag them for updates (in my case its only the UK), so maybe there are different update schemes for different countries or something needs to be activated for whole of Europe.
If you are tagging independent shops/organisations these can appear or close/change hands very quickly, so regular updates (ideally every month) would be essential for accuracy..
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo map doesn't display on Ironfox or Librewolf. No errors.
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@lokjo map doesn't display on Ironfox or Librewolf. No errors.
Here on Librewolf it displays.
Please note they are vector tiles, so you need to activate WebGL. (in the future we'll try to add an option for raster tiles again)
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo this is really cool!! i’ll give it a try on my trip!
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo
Great but change the "Quick" button. It's only because I read your post that I knew I could filter/Find in that way. -
Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo Sweet!!
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo Can I use it for searching places via Firefox bar? I think I'd need some sort of
GETrequests support likehttps://lokjo.com/?q=berlin. Does it work somehow? -
Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo How do you define "corporation or chain"? It's mostly wrong for what I've seen around here.
Also, how exactly is a shop supposed be not some kind of corporation?
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@sonjavan62 @lokjo you might wanna check out @CoMaps, it's using the same map source (OpenStreetMap).
@noodlejetski Thank you, I will try it - my goal is to use Google apps as little as possible. @lokjo @CoMaps
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We're not using an app because they are mainly for data-collecting use.
You can just use it in a browser, most settings are in the URL so when you can just add a hyperlink to your homescreen to 'open' it, like an app.
@lokjo I understand, but not all apps collect data or use trackers.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo I like that you segment out chains to emphazie shopping local, but for general usability, can you show them with the same "category" icon as the local shop, just with the bland grey instead of the enticing orange?
I think wider uptake is likely if its clear what all your options are as a user.
If thats too far off your overall goal, what about a togglable option?
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Here on Librewolf it displays.
Please note they are vector tiles, so you need to activate WebGL. (in the future we'll try to add an option for raster tiles again)
@lokjo it should test for WebGL and provide an error message if it is not available. Do shout up when it uses something other than WebGL as it sounds an interesting project.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo interesting style. I wonder why forests are barely visible while meadows are so prominent.
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@lokjo
Great but change the "Quick" button. It's only because I read your post that I knew I could filter/Find in that way.Thanks for the feedback, it's added to the list.
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@lokjo Can I use it for searching places via Firefox bar? I think I'd need some sort of
GETrequests support likehttps://lokjo.com/?q=berlin. Does it work somehow?Hi, not yet, there's a complete rebuild in progress which should come out in a few months. In the meantime things could change.
