Hypocrites.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs Rofl, I'd play the world's tiniest violin for them, but apparently they're down to tardigrade size now according to the memes, so I can't even do that. Oh well.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs Lets just forget about copyright.
If it is accessible it should be free to be copied.
I hope the EU starts the wave by abolishing US copyright in EU.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs Kind of difficult to not root for the scrapers. Please, scrape each other even harder, anything that makes this whole thing collapse a little quicker.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs OMG the poetry!
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs they don’t say anything one way or another. Maybe they are proud of them
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs Will someone please think of the billionaires
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
They didn't just scrape what was public. They knowingly mass-pirated almost everything they could get their hands on.
So... They'd be fine with people "pirating" their super-secret information, right?
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs You greedy little bastards! Stop whining and get a life!
This whole GenAI LLM industry is built on stolen work and stolen creativity, This is organised crime, and you are the mobsters.
Now your scum colleagues scrape your models, and you feel betrayed? You're thieves like them, and all of your bunch can rot in hell!
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@simonbs they don’t say anything one way or another. Maybe they are proud of them
@imyke Haha, fair point! I was curious enough about their stance to log into Twitter and read their own replies.
They acknowledge the utility of “distillation" but point out that foreign labs should not distill American models.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Anthropic's models aren't trained on American data only
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs I bet my left nut that Anthropic, OpenAI, etc. are doing the same with all their competitors as well.
I hope it causes model collapse.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs So much use for this meme pic lately.
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@nighthawk Properly a little less, at least from the software industry, but I think authors and artists would give the same backlash.
Just to be clear: my post isn't meant as backlash, per se. I use AI tools frequently. I just don't want Anthropic etc. to cry about someone stealing from them when that's their entire business.
@simonbs @nighthawk It's somewhat comical. Part of why they are worked up about it likely that they assess distillation will be easier to defend legally than direct rights-violating use of training data. The reality is there are many strong technical teams in China and elsewhere, and their technical progress threatens the margins of Anthropic etc.
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@simonbs "BUT WE STOLE IT FIRST" is an interesting legal strategy.
@grumble209 @simonbs
tbf. There are entire nations founded on this principle. -
Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
And so the snake starts eating itself... the #Ouroboros!
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@imyke Haha, fair point! I was curious enough about their stance to log into Twitter and read their own replies.
They acknowledge the utility of “distillation" but point out that foreign labs should not distill American models.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Anthropic's models aren't trained on American data only
@simonbs @imyke I really liked Theo’s take on this: https://youtu.be/_k22WAEAfpE?si=jkqm4coKKADx9JR0
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs Someone is stealing from the thieves? Oh no.
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
@simonbs No, you don't understand. Anthropic is a WESTERN company so by definition anything they do is good! It's when predominantly non-white people do it that it's bad!
Get with the program!
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Hypocrites.
You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.
This was the inevitable conclusion of this cycle - AI eating itself.
