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  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

    Hypocrites.

    You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

    bornach@vis.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @simonbs

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    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

      @nighthawk Properly a little less, at least from the software industry, but I think authors and artists would give the same backlash.

      Just to be clear: my post isn't meant as backlash, per se. I use AI tools frequently. I just don't want Anthropic etc. to cry about someone stealing from them when that's their entire business.

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      #7

      @simonbs @nighthawk Bank Robbers get mugged during getaway!!! Read all about it!!!

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      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

        Hypocrites.

        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

        grumble209@kolektiva.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @simonbs "BUT WE STOLE IT FIRST" is an interesting legal strategy.

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        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

          Hypocrites.

          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

          phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @simonbs I love the sweet sweet tears of the AI industry in the morning.

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          • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

            Hypocrites.

            You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

            marc@23.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @simonbs it’s like a thief being robbed by another thief, but demanding ethics and a fair game.

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            • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

              Hypocrites.

              You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

              henryk@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @simonbs https://youtu.be/vxnpY0owPkA?t=25

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              • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                Hypocrites.

                You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @simonbs if i was anthropic i'd stfu

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                • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                  Hypocrites.

                  You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                  npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @simonbs

                  #TranslatedFromTheRepublican

                  "Our stolen car was used by a car thief to steal more cars. "

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                  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                    Hypocrites.

                    You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                    nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @simonbs Rofl, I'd play the world's tiniest violin for them, but apparently they're down to tardigrade size now according to the memes, so I can't even do that. Oh well.

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                    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                      Hypocrites.

                      You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                      #15

                      @simonbs Lets just forget about copyright.

                      If it is accessible it should be free to be copied.

                      I hope the EU starts the wave by abolishing US copyright in EU.

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                      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                        Hypocrites.

                        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                        #16

                        @simonbs Kind of difficult to not root for the scrapers. Please, scrape each other even harder, anything that makes this whole thing collapse a little quicker.

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                        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                          Hypocrites.

                          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                          #17

                          @simonbs OMG the poetry!

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                          • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                            Hypocrites.

                            You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                            imyke@myke.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @simonbs they don’t say anything one way or another. Maybe they are proud of them 😂

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                            • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                              Hypocrites.

                              You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                              hackles_raised@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @simonbs Will someone please think of the billionaires 😭

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                              • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                Hypocrites.

                                You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #20

                                @simonbs

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RES4flSRlM&t=5s

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                                • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                  Hypocrites.

                                  You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                  shaknais@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @simonbs

                                  They didn't just scrape what was public. They knowingly mass-pirated almost everything they could get their hands on.

                                  So... They'd be fine with people "pirating" their super-secret information, right?

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/ai-industry-horrified-to-face-largest-copyright-class-action-ever-certified/

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                                  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                    Hypocrites.

                                    You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                    dazzr@social.tchncs.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #22

                                    @simonbs You greedy little bastards! Stop whining and get a life!

                                    This whole GenAI LLM industry is built on stolen work and stolen creativity, This is organised crime, and you are the mobsters.

                                    Now your scum colleagues scrape your models, and you feel betrayed? You're thieves like them, and all of your bunch can rot in hell!

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                                    • imyke@myke.socialI imyke@myke.social

                                      @simonbs they don’t say anything one way or another. Maybe they are proud of them 😂

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                                      #23

                                      @imyke Haha, fair point! I was curious enough about their stance to log into Twitter and read their own replies.

                                      They acknowledge the utility of “distillation" but point out that foreign labs should not distill American models.

                                      I mean, I'm pretty sure Anthropic's models aren't trained on American data only 🙃

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                                      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                        Hypocrites.

                                        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                        kiloku@burnthis.townK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #24

                                        @simonbs I bet my left nut that Anthropic, OpenAI, etc. are doing the same with all their competitors as well.

                                        I hope it causes model collapse.

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                                        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                          Hypocrites.

                                          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                          jukkan@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #25

                                          @simonbs So much use for this meme pic lately.

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