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Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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    #23

    @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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    • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

      @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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      #24

      @azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

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      • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

        @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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        #25

        @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          @ricci

          Maybe only tech bro corporate social media sites count. 🤷

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          #26

          @mastodonmigration @ricci

          Not to me 🧡

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

            But their map is wrong.

            Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

            https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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            #27

            @ricci

            Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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            • supermoosie@mastodon.auS supermoosie@mastodon.au

              @ricci

              Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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              #28

              @SuperMoosie @ricci

              Comission (that is, the EU-ministers) are. The other branches are not.

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                But their map is wrong.

                Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                #29

                @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

                  @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                  #30

                  @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                    @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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                    #31

                    @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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                    • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

                      @ricci weird, this seems to omit mastodon.nz and mastodon.au @xrobau

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                      #32

                      @colinburgess @ricci @xrobau are birds even real?

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #33

                        @jollysea @UlrikeHahn read the post

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                        • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

                          @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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                          #34

                          @johan hmm looks like you are not in the host list I'm using for some reason

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                          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                            @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

                            Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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                            #35

                            @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
                            mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
                            https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

                            @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

                            @colinburgess @xrobau

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                            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                              @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                              #36

                              @ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

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                              • segebodo@chaos.socialS segebodo@chaos.social

                                @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
                                mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
                                https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

                                @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

                                @colinburgess @xrobau

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                                #37

                                @fedidb @colinburgess @xrobau @Segebodo FWIW I'm not using fedidb for my data, my crawler is documented here: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fetch-nodeinfo-bot.html

                                I'm using ipinfo.io for geolocation - but, like fedidb, I can't tell where hosts behind CDNs are automatically. But if they have a system for letting admins indicate their location, and expose it via API, I can maybe get a better guess for some behind CDNs

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                                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                  @ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

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                                  #38

                                  @jollysea if you look at the post you'll see that I did

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                                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                    Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                    But their map is wrong.

                                    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                    #39

                                    @ricci
                                    Even naming themselves after X, which is Elon's blind path and not the Twitter many fell into an abusive but somewhat beneficial relationship with, is a red flag.

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                                    • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                      @ricci
                                      Even naming themselves after X, which is Elon's blind path and not the Twitter many fell into an abusive but somewhat beneficial relationship with, is a red flag.

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                                      #40

                                      @ozzelot yeah I don't know they think they're trying to do here

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                                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                        Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                        But their map is wrong.

                                        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                        #41

                                        @ricci This is so cool!

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                                        • phreaknerd@social.tchncs.deP phreaknerd@social.tchncs.de

                                          @ricci This is so cool!

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                                          #42

                                          @phreaknerd glad you like it!

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