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Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

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  • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

    @ricci @xrobau I see!

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    #8

    @xrobau @colinburgess yeah I wish I had a way to peek behind it but obfuscating the actual source is kinda the whole point, to avoid load on the origin

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    • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

      @ricci
      I don't think W is an EU backed SMN. I think it's simply in Europe?

      I could be wrong, but it looks like PR baloney.

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      #9

      @raymaccarthy idk I just saw their shitty map that is bad and they should feel bad about it

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      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

        @xrobau @colinburgess yeah I wish I had a way to peek behind it but obfuscating the actual source is kinda the whole point, to avoid load on the origin

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        #10

        @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

          Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

          But their map is wrong.

          Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

          https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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          #11

          @ricci
          Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

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          • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

            @ricci
            Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

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            #12

            @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

              Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

              But their map is wrong.

              Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

              https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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              #13

              @ricci Nice!

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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                #14

                @ricci
                Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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                • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

                  @ricci
                  Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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                  #15

                  @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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                  • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

                    @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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                    #16

                    @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                    • xrobau@mastodon.auX xrobau@mastodon.au

                      @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                      #17

                      @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

                      Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                        @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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                        #18

                        @ricci
                        😁🙏🏻

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                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                          Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                          But their map is wrong.

                          Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                          https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                          #19

                          @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

                          Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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                          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                            Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                            But their map is wrong.

                            Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                            https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                            #20

                            @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                            • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                              @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                              #21

                              @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                But their map is wrong.

                                Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                #22

                                @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                  @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                                  #23

                                  @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                                  • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                                    @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                                    #24

                                    @azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

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                                    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                      @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                                      #25

                                      @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                        @ricci

                                        Maybe only tech bro corporate social media sites count. 🤷

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                                        #26

                                        @mastodonmigration @ricci

                                        Not to me 🧡

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                                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                          Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                          But their map is wrong.

                                          Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                          https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                          #27

                                          @ricci

                                          Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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