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Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

    But their map is wrong.

    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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    #11

    @ricci
    Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

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    • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

      @ricci
      Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

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      #12

      @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

        Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

        But their map is wrong.

        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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        #13

        @ricci Nice!

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        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

          @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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          #14

          @ricci
          Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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          • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

            @ricci
            Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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            #15

            @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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            • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

              @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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              #16

              @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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              • xrobau@mastodon.auX xrobau@mastodon.au

                @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                #17

                @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

                Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                  @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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                  #18

                  @ricci
                  😁🙏🏻

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                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                    Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                    But their map is wrong.

                    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                    #19

                    @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

                    Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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                    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                      Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                      But their map is wrong.

                      Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                      https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                      #20

                      @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                      • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                        @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                        #21

                        @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                          Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                          But their map is wrong.

                          Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                          https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                          #22

                          @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                            @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                            #23

                            @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                            • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                              @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                              #24

                              @azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

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                              • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                                #25

                                @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                  @ricci

                                  Maybe only tech bro corporate social media sites count. 🤷

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                                  #26

                                  @mastodonmigration @ricci

                                  Not to me 🧡

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                                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                    Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                    But their map is wrong.

                                    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                    #27

                                    @ricci

                                    Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                                    • supermoosie@mastodon.auS supermoosie@mastodon.au

                                      @ricci

                                      Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                                      #28

                                      @SuperMoosie @ricci

                                      Comission (that is, the EU-ministers) are. The other branches are not.

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                                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                        Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                        But their map is wrong.

                                        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                                        johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #29

                                        @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                                        • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

                                          @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                                          #30

                                          @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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