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Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

    But their map is wrong.

    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

    johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #29

    @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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    • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

      @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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      #30

      @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

        @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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        #31

        @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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        • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

          @ricci weird, this seems to omit mastodon.nz and mastodon.au @xrobau

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          #32

          @colinburgess @ricci @xrobau are birds even real?

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #33

            @jollysea @UlrikeHahn read the post

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            • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

              @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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              #34

              @johan hmm looks like you are not in the host list I'm using for some reason

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

                Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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                #35

                @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
                mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
                https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

                @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

                @colinburgess @xrobau

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                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                  @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                  #36

                  @ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

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                  • segebodo@chaos.socialS segebodo@chaos.social

                    @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
                    mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
                    https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

                    @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

                    @colinburgess @xrobau

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                    #37

                    @fedidb @colinburgess @xrobau @Segebodo FWIW I'm not using fedidb for my data, my crawler is documented here: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fetch-nodeinfo-bot.html

                    I'm using ipinfo.io for geolocation - but, like fedidb, I can't tell where hosts behind CDNs are automatically. But if they have a system for letting admins indicate their location, and expose it via API, I can maybe get a better guess for some behind CDNs

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                    • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                      @ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

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                      #38

                      @jollysea if you look at the post you'll see that I did

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                        Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                        But their map is wrong.

                        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                        ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #39

                        @ricci
                        Even naming themselves after X, which is Elon's blind path and not the Twitter many fell into an abusive but somewhat beneficial relationship with, is a red flag.

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                        • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                          @ricci
                          Even naming themselves after X, which is Elon's blind path and not the Twitter many fell into an abusive but somewhat beneficial relationship with, is a red flag.

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                          #40

                          @ozzelot yeah I don't know they think they're trying to do here

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                          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                            Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                            But their map is wrong.

                            Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                            https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                            #41

                            @ricci This is so cool!

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                            • phreaknerd@social.tchncs.deP phreaknerd@social.tchncs.de

                              @ricci This is so cool!

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                              #42

                              @phreaknerd glad you like it!

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                              • xrobau@mastodon.auX xrobau@mastodon.au

                                @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                                #43

                                @xrobau @colinburgess @ricci Cannot… resist…

                                Hi, Bruce!

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                                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                  Launching their new social network, W, a group in the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                  But their map is wrong.

                                  Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                  https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                  #44

                                  @ricci
                                  I had thought perhaps they weren't showing the local servers in order to protect them.

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                                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                    @ozzelot yeah I don't know they think they're trying to do here

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                                    #45

                                    @ricci
                                    I think they're trying to do European Big Tech, blissfully unaware that Big Tech is seen by many as one of America's many illnesses, not a goal to strive towards. (Or aware and they think that point of view is wrong somehow.)

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                                    • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                      @ricci
                                      I think they're trying to do European Big Tech, blissfully unaware that Big Tech is seen by many as one of America's many illnesses, not a goal to strive towards. (Or aware and they think that point of view is wrong somehow.)

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                                      #46

                                      @ozzelot that's where I'm at for sure

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                                      • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                                        @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

                                        Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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                                        #47

                                        @gimulnautti @ricci Surveillance photo of Eurobros financing the hosting deal

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