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  • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

    @randahl
    He wasn’t President, he lost, he just kept the title. Much like Putin. Venezuela was a mafia state under him.

    Trump being a dick is entirely separate, but don’t credit Maduro. If Trump did that to Putin I would applaud.

    Why and how Trump did it is a grave concern, but Venezuela isn’t Greenland.

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    #10

    @taatm @randahl

    Does Trump know Venezuela isn't Greenland? His primary reason to invade Venezuela has been that he wants their resources, which is the exact same reason he wants Greenland.

    It's true that Venezuela is a mafia state under Maduro, but the US is also a mafia state under Trump. A mafia in control of the world's most powerful military.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

      Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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      paul_stilgar@mastodon.social
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      #11

      @randahl
      And the indictment is laughable.

      narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine-guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine-guns and destructive devices.

      Oh and half of their document is about Colombia and Mexico. They should take note

      https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1422326/dl

      #venezuela #usa #mexico #colombia #canada #greenland #eu #europe

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

        Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

        fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @randahl

        Which is grotesquely unfair. Only Australians should be allowed to have kangaroo courts.

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        • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

          @randahl
          He wasn’t President, he lost, he just kept the title. Much like Putin. Venezuela was a mafia state under him.

          Trump being a dick is entirely separate, but don’t credit Maduro. If Trump did that to Putin I would applaud.

          Why and how Trump did it is a grave concern, but Venezuela isn’t Greenland.

          bufalo1973@tuiter.rocksB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @taatm @randahl would you think the same if China did the same with Taiwan's president?

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

            Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

            basic_bench@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @randahl I have an idea.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

              Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

              jmrr@twit.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @randahl "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." (David Friedman)

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              • bufalo1973@tuiter.rocksB bufalo1973@tuiter.rocks

                @taatm @randahl would you think the same if China did the same with Taiwan's president?

                taatm@mathstodon.xyzT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @bufalo1973 @randahl
                No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.

                These are very different.

                ikuturso@mastodon.socialI rockiger@mastodon.socialR bufalo1973@tuiter.rocksB 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

                  @bufalo1973 @randahl
                  No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.

                  These are very different.

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                  #17

                  @taatm @bufalo1973 @randahl analogy isn't perfect since China doesn't view Taiwan as an actual sovereign state that could even have a president to begin with but I guess for you to go and abduct a foreign nation's president like in the Maduro case you have to also not respect its sovereignty so not that different in the end.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                    Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                    #18

                    @randahl Yeah like c’mon hasn’t anybody ever heard of The Hague

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                    • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

                      @bufalo1973 @randahl
                      No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.

                      These are very different.

                      rockiger@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @taatm @bufalo1973 @randahl That is a very slippery slope.

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                      • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

                        @randahl
                        He wasn’t President, he lost, he just kept the title. Much like Putin. Venezuela was a mafia state under him.

                        Trump being a dick is entirely separate, but don’t credit Maduro. If Trump did that to Putin I would applaud.

                        Why and how Trump did it is a grave concern, but Venezuela isn’t Greenland.

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                        welcometoeurope@mastodon.social
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                        #20

                        @taatm @randahl apparently America can do whatever it wants as long as you say “drugs” “mafia” “smuggling”. Isn’t Russia run like the mafia???? Why haven’t we kidnapped Putin?

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                        • P paul_stilgar@mastodon.social

                          @randahl
                          And the indictment is laughable.

                          narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine-guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine-guns and destructive devices.

                          Oh and half of their document is about Colombia and Mexico. They should take note

                          https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1422326/dl

                          #venezuela #usa #mexico #colombia #canada #greenland #eu #europe

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                          #21

                          @Paul_stilgar @randahl

                          Wait, they're going to sue the president of a country because his country has machine guns? Seriously?

                          They're going to need an extremely corrupt judge to make any of that stick.

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                          • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

                            @bufalo1973 @randahl
                            No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.

                            These are very different.

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                            #22

                            @taatm @randahl in Spain the far right says the president is not legit and must be jailed... because they weren't elected. That doesn't mean the current president didn't follow the rules to become president. So by the far right idea, the US should invade Spain to kidnap the president... when he didn't break the law to become it. Don't you see the problem? Imagine another country where the opposition asks China to kidnap the president saying "s/he is not the president (because we say so)". Would it be right for China to do the same the US has done in Venezuela?

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                              Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                              #23

                              @randahl

                              In that case, surely the President of the United States can be kidnapped, taken to another country, and be held accountable for his crimes in a court of law there.

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                              • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                                @randahl This is to be expected of a rogue state.

                                Did you not notice when the US became a rogue state?

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                                #24

                                @androcat @randahl - WACO TACO is the Rogue State not the US. My Speculation.

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                                • snowpaint@mastodon.socialS snowpaint@mastodon.social

                                  @randahl Yeah like c’mon hasn’t anybody ever heard of The Hague

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                                  #25

                                  @snowpaint @randahl 👍; Great Answer

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                                  • jmrr@twit.socialJ jmrr@twit.social

                                    @randahl "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." (David Friedman)

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                                    #26

                                    @jmrr @randahl 👍

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                                      Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

                                      raganwald@social.bau-ha.usR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      raganwald@social.bau-ha.us
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                                      #27

                                      @randahl Conservatism:

                                      “There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

                                      Anti-conservatism:

                                      “The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.”

                                      https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288

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                                      • atlovato@mastodon.socialA atlovato@mastodon.social

                                        @androcat @randahl - WACO TACO is the Rogue State not the US. My Speculation.

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                                        #28

                                        @atlovato

                                        What are you smoking?

                                        @randahl

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                                          Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

                                          sarpau@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #29

                                          @randahl Well obviously one rule for the US and another for the rest of the world

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