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The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law.

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  • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

    @bufalo1973 @randahl
    No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.

    These are very different.

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    #17

    @taatm @bufalo1973 @randahl analogy isn't perfect since China doesn't view Taiwan as an actual sovereign state that could even have a president to begin with but I guess for you to go and abduct a foreign nation's president like in the Maduro case you have to also not respect its sovereignty so not that different in the end.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

      Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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      #18

      @randahl Yeah like c’mon hasn’t anybody ever heard of The Hague

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      • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

        @bufalo1973 @randahl
        No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.

        These are very different.

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        #19

        @taatm @bufalo1973 @randahl That is a very slippery slope.

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        • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

          @randahl
          He wasn’t President, he lost, he just kept the title. Much like Putin. Venezuela was a mafia state under him.

          Trump being a dick is entirely separate, but don’t credit Maduro. If Trump did that to Putin I would applaud.

          Why and how Trump did it is a grave concern, but Venezuela isn’t Greenland.

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          #20

          @taatm @randahl apparently America can do whatever it wants as long as you say “drugs” “mafia” “smuggling”. Isn’t Russia run like the mafia???? Why haven’t we kidnapped Putin?

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          • P paul_stilgar@mastodon.social

            @randahl
            And the indictment is laughable.

            narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine-guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine-guns and destructive devices.

            Oh and half of their document is about Colombia and Mexico. They should take note

            https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1422326/dl

            #venezuela #usa #mexico #colombia #canada #greenland #eu #europe

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            #21

            @Paul_stilgar @randahl

            Wait, they're going to sue the president of a country because his country has machine guns? Seriously?

            They're going to need an extremely corrupt judge to make any of that stick.

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            • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

              @bufalo1973 @randahl
              No. Taiwan has a President. Not someone claiming to be president.

              These are very different.

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              #22

              @taatm @randahl in Spain the far right says the president is not legit and must be jailed... because they weren't elected. That doesn't mean the current president didn't follow the rules to become president. So by the far right idea, the US should invade Spain to kidnap the president... when he didn't break the law to become it. Don't you see the problem? Imagine another country where the opposition asks China to kidnap the president saying "s/he is not the president (because we say so)". Would it be right for China to do the same the US has done in Venezuela?

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                #23

                @randahl

                In that case, surely the President of the United States can be kidnapped, taken to another country, and be held accountable for his crimes in a court of law there.

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                • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                  @randahl This is to be expected of a rogue state.

                  Did you not notice when the US became a rogue state?

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                  #24

                  @androcat @randahl - WACO TACO is the Rogue State not the US. My Speculation.

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                  • snowpaint@mastodon.socialS snowpaint@mastodon.social

                    @randahl Yeah like c’mon hasn’t anybody ever heard of The Hague

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                    #25

                    @snowpaint @randahl 👍; Great Answer

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                    • jmrr@twit.socialJ jmrr@twit.social

                      @randahl "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." (David Friedman)

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                      #26

                      @jmrr @randahl 👍

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                        Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                        #27

                        @randahl Conservatism:

                        “There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

                        Anti-conservatism:

                        “The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.”

                        https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288

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                        • atlovato@mastodon.socialA atlovato@mastodon.social

                          @androcat @randahl - WACO TACO is the Rogue State not the US. My Speculation.

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                          #28

                          @atlovato

                          What are you smoking?

                          @randahl

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                            Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                            #29

                            @randahl Well obviously one rule for the US and another for the rest of the world

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                            • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                              @randahl

                              In that case, surely the President of the United States can be kidnapped, taken to another country, and be held accountable for his crimes in a court of law there.

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                              #30

                              @davidtheeviloverlord - watch Agent Orange take far fewer trips abroad. Just in case.

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                                Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                                #31

                                @randahl oh he won’t stop with Venezuela, the goal was easily accomplished. He’s got his piggy little eyes on the next country because he thinks they’ll all fall to a few hours on land and some air support. It’s how greedy people think, the absolute worst thing that can happen is a greedy person getting what they want with little effort.

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                                • ilka4you@mastodon.socialI ilka4you@mastodon.social

                                  @randahl yes. Mind blowing. Absolutely maniacly lunatic. And the world is watching.

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                                  #32

                                  @Ilka4You @randahl they are too scared, it is horrendous! 🤬

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                                  • catdragon@mastodon.worldC catdragon@mastodon.world

                                    @randahl oh he won’t stop with Venezuela, the goal was easily accomplished. He’s got his piggy little eyes on the next country because he thinks they’ll all fall to a few hours on land and some air support. It’s how greedy people think, the absolute worst thing that can happen is a greedy person getting what they want with little effort.

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                                    #33

                                    @CatDragon @randahl

                                    Today Venezuela, tomorrow Greenland and the whole American continent, Wednesday the world.

                                    I'm really wondering what it's going to take for the rest of the world to wake up and treat the USA for what it is: Nazi Germany reborn.

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                                    • snowpaint@mastodon.socialS snowpaint@mastodon.social

                                      @randahl Yeah like c’mon hasn’t anybody ever heard of The Hague

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                                      #34

                                      @snowpaint @randahl

                                      "Yeah like c’mon hasn’t anybody ever heard of The Hague"

                                      The Hague
                                      😂
                                      Riiiiiight.

                                      So tell me...whose going to come and get him?

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                                      • mcv@friendica.opensocial.spaceM mcv@friendica.opensocial.space

                                        @Paul_stilgar @randahl

                                        Wait, they're going to sue the president of a country because his country has machine guns? Seriously?

                                        They're going to need an extremely corrupt judge to make any of that stick.

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                                        #35

                                        @mcv @randahl @Paul_stilgar
                                        "narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine-guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine-guns and destructive devices."

                                        Are they talking about Maduro or the CIA...?
                                        ☠️ 🇺🇸 ☠️
                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          The United States: Our president cannot be held accountable for his crimes in a US court of law. A president has absolute immunity.

                                          Also The United States: Now watch us kidnap a president of a totally different country, to hold him accountable for his crimes… in a US court of law.

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                                          #36

                                          @randahl all is fair in the "war on drugs." It's for the kids. Just ask Nancy.

                                          https://youtube.com/shorts/pOAfoxDerh0

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