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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

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  • afilina@phpc.socialA afilina@phpc.social

    @lokjo

    - Location: GPS on my phone, accurate on other sites/apps.
    - Include city name: we have numerous small towns in an agglomeration, so that's entirely impractical.
    - Proximity: go to https://www.lokjo.com/#m=19:45.47487:-73.48807:0 and type "Patrick Morin": first result is 30 minutes away across the river; closest would be 10 minutes away.
    - Address: but you do have the street and city name in the autocomplete, which I can *sometimes* see on desktop - it's clipped entirely on mobile due to ridiculously long tag)

    lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #77

    @afilina

    - Can't do much about this, I'll add it though to double check.

    - that's not something I can fix.

    - the proximity in 30 minute range is not an option I think, it's out of the settings scope.

    - when the autocomplete has an address but the map not then it might be because of different apis, this will be fixed in the updates on the way.

    Patrick Morin, These look like chains, so logically they all have the same OSM tagging.

    Will work on it, thanks again!

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    • mikka@medic.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #78

      @DaniPanic @lokjo @sonjavan62 It's just useless virtue signaling.

      The shops near me are "chains" in that they often are under a larger franchise, but sell local goods, employ local workers, support local efforts and events (such as food pantries and our community clinic with coffee and breakfasts for the homeless and addicts we serve). It's utter BS and just an attempt at "hey, here, use this. It's shit, but it has this dogmatic moral compass" which is precisely why Google and Instagram and others win every time with an "hey, try this, it's amazing but its moral compass is whack if you look deep enough".

      If I want an app to push their morals on me, I move to North Korea. I am old enough to decide for myself if I want to shop at a hipster vegan cafe (marked as "we don't support that" by the way) or Starbucks.

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      • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

        Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

        No cookies, no data, no nothing.

        When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

        https://lokjo.com

        Support us if you can by a donation here:
        https://www.lokjo.com/donate

        Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

        #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

        sarvo@novoa.nagoyaS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #79
        @lokjo@mapstodon.space do you use openstreetmaps?
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        • sarvo@novoa.nagoyaS sarvo@novoa.nagoya
          @lokjo@mapstodon.space do you use openstreetmaps?
          lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #80

          @sarvo

          Yes it's osm data.

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          • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

            @dokterjob

            Yes it's european indeed, but it's also owned by international (and american) investors. Something we don't support.

            About the public transport, that's a difficult one, since it consists of thousands of local transport companies, which can only be gathered by companies who have a rediculously huge budget, like google. There's really not much we can do there, for now.

            benedikt@ruhr.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #81

            @lokjo @dokterjob Have a look at @transitous

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            • benedikt@ruhr.socialB benedikt@ruhr.social

              @lokjo @dokterjob Have a look at @transitous

              lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #82

              @benedikt @dokterjob @transitous

              Looks promising, thanks!

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              • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                https://lokjo.com

                Support us if you can by a donation here:
                https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

                the_wub@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #83

                @lokjo No map tiles visible just the route.

                Ubuntu 22.04.Vivaldi-snapshot with uBlock Origin and Privacy badger. I tried the same with LibreWolf and still no map tiles.

                Privacy Badger suggests two potential tracking cookies. api.mapbox.com and unpkg.com

                Disabling PB and uBO does not change the situation wrt the map tiles.

                I have a pi-hole between my home network and the internet. Tethering to my phone, thus bypassing the pihole does not help the situation either.

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                • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                  @lokjo No map tiles visible just the route.

                  Ubuntu 22.04.Vivaldi-snapshot with uBlock Origin and Privacy badger. I tried the same with LibreWolf and still no map tiles.

                  Privacy Badger suggests two potential tracking cookies. api.mapbox.com and unpkg.com

                  Disabling PB and uBO does not change the situation wrt the map tiles.

                  I have a pi-hole between my home network and the internet. Tethering to my phone, thus bypassing the pihole does not help the situation either.

                  the_wub@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #84

                  @lokjo I always use private browsing mode with mapping services but I cannot see why that would be a problem.

                  I also tried connecting to a VPN in the Netherlands but this also did not change anything wrt the non appearance of any map tiles.

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                  • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                    @lokjo I always use private browsing mode with mapping services but I cannot see why that would be a problem.

                    I also tried connecting to a VPN in the Netherlands but this also did not change anything wrt the non appearance of any map tiles.

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                    #85

                    @the_wub

                    Have you tried turning on WebGl?

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                    • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                      @the_wub

                      Have you tried turning on WebGl?

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                      #86

                      @lokjo I just enabled hardware acceleration in Vivaldi-snapshot and the map tiles now render. So that is now sorted.

                      I have in the past had to disable hardware acceleration in vivaldi-stable and snapshot and on chromium on various devices (ARM64 and x64) due to rendering bugs appearing in the UIs.

                      It would be useful if lokjo could show some sort of message, especially a user friendly one such as "enable hardware acceleration" instead of just presenting a blank page.

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                      • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                        @lokjo I just enabled hardware acceleration in Vivaldi-snapshot and the map tiles now render. So that is now sorted.

                        I have in the past had to disable hardware acceleration in vivaldi-stable and snapshot and on chromium on various devices (ARM64 and x64) due to rendering bugs appearing in the UIs.

                        It would be useful if lokjo could show some sort of message, especially a user friendly one such as "enable hardware acceleration" instead of just presenting a blank page.

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                        #87

                        @lokjo Or, even better, if technically possible degrade gracefully and render without using WebGL.

                        Which I assume is not technically possible.

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                        • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                          @lokjo Or, even better, if technically possible degrade gracefully and render without using WebGL.

                          Which I assume is not technically possible.

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                          #88

                          @the_wub

                          Yes, thanks for the feedback, I'll work on the message for hardware acceleration and WebGL (thought that was automatic done by browser, but apperantly not)

                          We've had our maps without WebGL for 6 years, but then after Lokjo growing a bit it needed to save bandwith by using vector-tiles, which means using WebGL.

                          In the future I hope we can get raster-tiles as an extra option, again.

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                          • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                            @the_wub

                            Yes, thanks for the feedback, I'll work on the message for hardware acceleration and WebGL (thought that was automatic done by browser, but apperantly not)

                            We've had our maps without WebGL for 6 years, but then after Lokjo growing a bit it needed to save bandwith by using vector-tiles, which means using WebGL.

                            In the future I hope we can get raster-tiles as an extra option, again.

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                            #89

                            @lokjo If it is any consolation wego.here.com fails too without hardware acceleration enabled.

                            With Vivaldi you can configure it off manually. Then it stays off until you turn it on again.

                            As I mentioned useful if UI rendering bugs appear.

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