Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
Fantastic, I've been looking for an alternative !
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
Do you have an app?
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Thanks for your feedback!
- We don't have any location problems registered. Do you use gps or browser-location or other?
- there's many locations around the world having the same name, please try again but with the city name included. F.e. 'Shopname, Hamburg'
- Proximity is on for search. Should work fine. Could you give an example?
- Not every OSM location has an address, that's normal behaviour.
- That's a known bug indeed, it's on the list to be fixed.- Location: GPS on my phone, accurate on other sites/apps.
- Include city name: we have numerous small towns in an agglomeration, so that's entirely impractical.
- Proximity: go to https://www.lokjo.com/#m=19:45.47487:-73.48807:0 and type "Patrick Morin": first result is 30 minutes away across the river; closest would be 10 minutes away.
- Address: but you do have the street and city name in the autocomplete, which I can *sometimes* see on desktop - it's clipped entirely on mobile due to ridiculously long tag) -
- Location: GPS on my phone, accurate on other sites/apps.
- Include city name: we have numerous small towns in an agglomeration, so that's entirely impractical.
- Proximity: go to https://www.lokjo.com/#m=19:45.47487:-73.48807:0 and type "Patrick Morin": first result is 30 minutes away across the river; closest would be 10 minutes away.
- Address: but you do have the street and city name in the autocomplete, which I can *sometimes* see on desktop - it's clipped entirely on mobile due to ridiculously long tag)More on proximity: let's assume you don't have the Brossard store in the database. How can I tell?
- long tag + long street name causes city name to be clipped (street names repeat in every city here)
- there is no distance in km to evaluate result relevance
- when I pick a result, it's zoomed in (img1) and loses street/city info: I have to pinch-zoom for quite some time (img2)
- I have to retype the search if this is not the one I wanted, and remember which ones I already tried
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The satelite laywer got removed since there is no non-corporate european api for that.
OSM data doesn't mean 'it's just OSM'. Lokjo is a website build completely on it's own, using different apis from different european providers. (except for US Mapbox, used for the routing, which has been on the list to be replaced soon)
@lokjo
@oxapentane
Accessing OSM data through different APIs than the OSM one still makes you an OSM frontend. You shouldn't be ashamed of that, we do need good OSM frontends, but I find it a bit disingenouous to pretend like you are not and have your own maps and POIs.
I am glad to see a proper credit in the OSM leaflet! -
@lokjo just so you know, blocked by the DNS service Cisco umbrella, can't see how to report an incorrect block but I'll keep looking...
Oh hey thanks for the feedback, I'll check it asap.
I remember something like this a few months ago with the same local corporate structure which could be whitelisted.
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- Location: GPS on my phone, accurate on other sites/apps.
- Include city name: we have numerous small towns in an agglomeration, so that's entirely impractical.
- Proximity: go to https://www.lokjo.com/#m=19:45.47487:-73.48807:0 and type "Patrick Morin": first result is 30 minutes away across the river; closest would be 10 minutes away.
- Address: but you do have the street and city name in the autocomplete, which I can *sometimes* see on desktop - it's clipped entirely on mobile due to ridiculously long tag)- Can't do much about this, I'll add it though to double check.
- that's not something I can fix.
- the proximity in 30 minute range is not an option I think, it's out of the settings scope.
- when the autocomplete has an address but the map not then it might be because of different apis, this will be fixed in the updates on the way.
Patrick Morin, These look like chains, so logically they all have the same OSM tagging.
Will work on it, thanks again!
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@DaniPanic @lokjo @sonjavan62 It's just useless virtue signaling.
The shops near me are "chains" in that they often are under a larger franchise, but sell local goods, employ local workers, support local efforts and events (such as food pantries and our community clinic with coffee and breakfasts for the homeless and addicts we serve). It's utter BS and just an attempt at "hey, here, use this. It's shit, but it has this dogmatic moral compass" which is precisely why Google and Instagram and others win every time with an "hey, try this, it's amazing but its moral compass is whack if you look deep enough".
If I want an app to push their morals on me, I move to North Korea. I am old enough to decide for myself if I want to shop at a hipster vegan cafe (marked as "we don't support that" by the way) or Starbucks.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo@mapstodon.space do you use openstreetmaps? -
@lokjo@mapstodon.space do you use openstreetmaps?
Yes it's osm data.
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Yes it's european indeed, but it's also owned by international (and american) investors. Something we don't support.
About the public transport, that's a difficult one, since it consists of thousands of local transport companies, which can only be gathered by companies who have a rediculously huge budget, like google. There's really not much we can do there, for now.
@lokjo @dokterjob Have a look at @transitous
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@lokjo @dokterjob Have a look at @transitous
@benedikt @dokterjob @transitous
Looks promising, thanks!
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo No map tiles visible just the route.
Ubuntu 22.04.Vivaldi-snapshot with uBlock Origin and Privacy badger. I tried the same with LibreWolf and still no map tiles.
Privacy Badger suggests two potential tracking cookies. api.mapbox.com and unpkg.com
Disabling PB and uBO does not change the situation wrt the map tiles.
I have a pi-hole between my home network and the internet. Tethering to my phone, thus bypassing the pihole does not help the situation either.
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@lokjo No map tiles visible just the route.
Ubuntu 22.04.Vivaldi-snapshot with uBlock Origin and Privacy badger. I tried the same with LibreWolf and still no map tiles.
Privacy Badger suggests two potential tracking cookies. api.mapbox.com and unpkg.com
Disabling PB and uBO does not change the situation wrt the map tiles.
I have a pi-hole between my home network and the internet. Tethering to my phone, thus bypassing the pihole does not help the situation either.
@lokjo I always use private browsing mode with mapping services but I cannot see why that would be a problem.
I also tried connecting to a VPN in the Netherlands but this also did not change anything wrt the non appearance of any map tiles.
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@lokjo I always use private browsing mode with mapping services but I cannot see why that would be a problem.
I also tried connecting to a VPN in the Netherlands but this also did not change anything wrt the non appearance of any map tiles.
Have you tried turning on WebGl?
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Have you tried turning on WebGl?
@lokjo I just enabled hardware acceleration in Vivaldi-snapshot and the map tiles now render. So that is now sorted.
I have in the past had to disable hardware acceleration in vivaldi-stable and snapshot and on chromium on various devices (ARM64 and x64) due to rendering bugs appearing in the UIs.
It would be useful if lokjo could show some sort of message, especially a user friendly one such as "enable hardware acceleration" instead of just presenting a blank page.
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@lokjo I just enabled hardware acceleration in Vivaldi-snapshot and the map tiles now render. So that is now sorted.
I have in the past had to disable hardware acceleration in vivaldi-stable and snapshot and on chromium on various devices (ARM64 and x64) due to rendering bugs appearing in the UIs.
It would be useful if lokjo could show some sort of message, especially a user friendly one such as "enable hardware acceleration" instead of just presenting a blank page.
@lokjo Or, even better, if technically possible degrade gracefully and render without using WebGL.
Which I assume is not technically possible.
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@lokjo Or, even better, if technically possible degrade gracefully and render without using WebGL.
Which I assume is not technically possible.
Yes, thanks for the feedback, I'll work on the message for hardware acceleration and WebGL (thought that was automatic done by browser, but apperantly not)
We've had our maps without WebGL for 6 years, but then after Lokjo growing a bit it needed to save bandwith by using vector-tiles, which means using WebGL.
In the future I hope we can get raster-tiles as an extra option, again.
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Yes, thanks for the feedback, I'll work on the message for hardware acceleration and WebGL (thought that was automatic done by browser, but apperantly not)
We've had our maps without WebGL for 6 years, but then after Lokjo growing a bit it needed to save bandwith by using vector-tiles, which means using WebGL.
In the future I hope we can get raster-tiles as an extra option, again.
@lokjo If it is any consolation wego.here.com fails too without hardware acceleration enabled.
With Vivaldi you can configure it off manually. Then it stays off until you turn it on again.
As I mentioned useful if UI rendering bugs appear.
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