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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

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  • afilina@phpc.socialA afilina@phpc.social

    @lokjo Where to report issues, and when do you plan the 1.0 release?

    lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #47

    @afilina

    At the moment the feedback-form is closed because the to-do list is already filled up byond my recourses. Of course for urgent things you can write to the hi@ email.

    Lokjo has been around for 7 years as a website, so there is no version numbering, it's not an app, not a software. There will be a mayor update in a few months which we'll -probably- publish here when it goes online.

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    • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL lillyherself@mastodon.social

      @lokjo Is there a replacement yet for Streetview? I love it so much... :'-(

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      #48

      @LillyHerself

      Nope, there is no robust service for that for us to use. But there is however an open service in the build from france

      https://panoramax.fr

      You can see some more here
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_street_view_services#Europe

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      • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

        @afilina

        At the moment the feedback-form is closed because the to-do list is already filled up byond my recourses. Of course for urgent things you can write to the hi@ email.

        Lokjo has been around for 7 years as a website, so there is no version numbering, it's not an app, not a software. There will be a mayor update in a few months which we'll -probably- publish here when it goes online.

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        #49

        @lokjo Ok. I'll follow and wait for an announcement. Had a bug at every step, so currently unusable for me.

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        • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

          Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

          No cookies, no data, no nothing.

          When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

          https://lokjo.com

          Support us if you can by a donation here:
          https://www.lokjo.com/donate

          Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

          #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

          dokterjob@mastodon.nlD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #50

          @lokjo there is already an in the Netherlands located an European owned nav system including maps called HERE WeGo https://wego.here.com/
          Former used by Nokia and now by European car companies and yahoo.
          I love it as it works flawlessly offline including public transport and time tables.

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          • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

            Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

            No cookies, no data, no nothing.

            When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

            https://lokjo.com

            Support us if you can by a donation here:
            https://www.lokjo.com/donate

            Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

            #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

            elliessurviving@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #51

            @lokjo im definitely one to prefer an offline map that can be downloaded to my phone (i dont like the others and fucking hate magic earth after its recent update) but for when i have internet connectivity im really liking this, appreciate it, looking forward to whatever comes next

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            • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

              Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

              No cookies, no data, no nothing.

              When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

              https://lokjo.com

              Support us if you can by a donation here:
              https://www.lokjo.com/donate

              Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

              #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

              oxapentane@c3d2.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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              #52

              @lokjo
              "Alternative to google maps!"
              looks inside: osm(?) with custom skin, no satellite layer.

              "EU based alternative" in a nutshell

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              • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.

                No cookies, no data, no nothing.

                When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.

                https://lokjo.com

                Support us if you can by a donation here:
                https://www.lokjo.com/donate

                Or just give it a boost. Thanks. 😊

                #EUsubstitutes #maps #europe #lokjo

                nemobis@mamot.frN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #53

                @lokjo Always nice to see (attributed) #OpenStreetMap data reuse!

                I'm a bit confused by what you mean with "european" and "no data". Currently the website transfers every visitor's personal data to the USA, as it loads resources served by Cloudflare (maps.geoapify.com and unpkg.com).

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                • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                  @LillyHerself

                  Nope, there is no robust service for that for us to use. But there is however an open service in the build from france

                  https://panoramax.fr

                  You can see some more here
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_street_view_services#Europe

                  lillyherself@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #54

                  @lokjo Merci!

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                  • afilina@phpc.socialA afilina@phpc.social

                    @lokjo Ok. I'll follow and wait for an announcement. Had a bug at every step, so currently unusable for me.

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                    #55

                    @afilina

                    Which bugs are you getting?

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                    • dokterjob@mastodon.nlD dokterjob@mastodon.nl

                      @lokjo there is already an in the Netherlands located an European owned nav system including maps called HERE WeGo https://wego.here.com/
                      Former used by Nokia and now by European car companies and yahoo.
                      I love it as it works flawlessly offline including public transport and time tables.

                      lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #56

                      @dokterjob

                      Yes it's european indeed, but it's also owned by international (and american) investors. Something we don't support.

                      About the public transport, that's a difficult one, since it consists of thousands of local transport companies, which can only be gathered by companies who have a rediculously huge budget, like google. There's really not much we can do there, for now.

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                      • elliessurviving@tech.lgbtE elliessurviving@tech.lgbt

                        @lokjo im definitely one to prefer an offline map that can be downloaded to my phone (i dont like the others and fucking hate magic earth after its recent update) but for when i have internet connectivity im really liking this, appreciate it, looking forward to whatever comes next

                        lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #57

                        @ElliesSurviving

                        Downloadable maps might come in the future, for now we focus on internet connection, since most people have it, and it saves a whopping lot on development costs for an app.

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                        • oxapentane@c3d2.socialO oxapentane@c3d2.social

                          @lokjo
                          "Alternative to google maps!"
                          looks inside: osm(?) with custom skin, no satellite layer.

                          "EU based alternative" in a nutshell

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                          #58

                          @oxapentane

                          The satelite laywer got removed since there is no non-corporate european api for that.

                          OSM data doesn't mean 'it's just OSM'. Lokjo is a website build completely on it's own, using different apis from different european providers. (except for US Mapbox, used for the routing, which has been on the list to be replaced soon)

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                          • nemobis@mamot.frN nemobis@mamot.fr

                            @lokjo Always nice to see (attributed) #OpenStreetMap data reuse!

                            I'm a bit confused by what you mean with "european" and "no data". Currently the website transfers every visitor's personal data to the USA, as it loads resources served by Cloudflare (maps.geoapify.com and unpkg.com).

                            lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #59

                            @nemobis

                            As far as I'm concerned all data/pois/tiles are on european servers.

                            api-eu.geoapify.com is in the UK.

                            https://hosting-checker.net/websites/api-eu.geoapify.com

                            unpkg is only for routing (mapbox) which is on the list to be replaced soon.

                            With no-data I mean we don't store visitor data and therefor don't use cookies.

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                            • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL lillyherself@mastodon.social

                              @lokjo Merci!

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                              #60

                              @LillyHerself

                              You're welcome 😊

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                              • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                @afilina

                                Which bugs are you getting?

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                                #61

                                @lokjo

                                - My location is ~100m off
                                - Search local biz by name: gives long tags (not human-readable) that push address outside of screen, so I don't know which result to pick
                                - Results not in order of proximity: first result is from other city, exacerbating prev problem
                                - Clicking on result showed pin without address and so zoomed in that map was empty
                                - Picking "to" for directions showed from/to UI but nothing prefilled, and since I don't see the address, I can't do anything.

                                Stopped there.

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                                • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                                  @oxapentane

                                  The satelite laywer got removed since there is no non-corporate european api for that.

                                  OSM data doesn't mean 'it's just OSM'. Lokjo is a website build completely on it's own, using different apis from different european providers. (except for US Mapbox, used for the routing, which has been on the list to be replaced soon)

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                                  #62

                                  @lokjo Thanks for clarification! Maybe worth stressing this in your communication. Cause initial tweet looks like another sovereignty-washing of osm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                                  • oxapentane@c3d2.socialO oxapentane@c3d2.social

                                    @lokjo Thanks for clarification! Maybe worth stressing this in your communication. Cause initial tweet looks like another sovereignty-washing of osm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                                    #63

                                    @lokjo regarding the satellite layers: I guess that something that needs to be done on per-country basis. There's e.g. API from dutch space office https://www.satellietdataportaal.nl/handleidingen/

                                    Not sure about other countries though

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                                    • oxapentane@c3d2.socialO oxapentane@c3d2.social

                                      @lokjo regarding the satellite layers: I guess that something that needs to be done on per-country basis. There's e.g. API from dutch space office https://www.satellietdataportaal.nl/handleidingen/

                                      Not sure about other countries though

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                                      #64

                                      @lokjo ^ available only in NL for some reason

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                                      • afilina@phpc.socialA afilina@phpc.social

                                        @lokjo

                                        - My location is ~100m off
                                        - Search local biz by name: gives long tags (not human-readable) that push address outside of screen, so I don't know which result to pick
                                        - Results not in order of proximity: first result is from other city, exacerbating prev problem
                                        - Clicking on result showed pin without address and so zoomed in that map was empty
                                        - Picking "to" for directions showed from/to UI but nothing prefilled, and since I don't see the address, I can't do anything.

                                        Stopped there.

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                                        #65

                                        @afilina

                                        Thanks for your feedback!

                                        - We don't have any location problems registered. Do you use gps or browser-location or other?
                                        - there's many locations around the world having the same name, please try again but with the city name included. F.e. 'Shopname, Hamburg'
                                        - Proximity is on for search. Should work fine. Could you give an example?
                                        - Not every OSM location has an address, that's normal behaviour.
                                        - That's a known bug indeed, it's on the list to be fixed.

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                                        • oxapentane@c3d2.socialO oxapentane@c3d2.social

                                          @lokjo Thanks for clarification! Maybe worth stressing this in your communication. Cause initial tweet looks like another sovereignty-washing of osm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                                          #66

                                          @oxapentane

                                          Yes it's in our bio, and since it's not the main core of our purpouse and we have to keep it short in tweets we didn't added it. But thanks for hte feedback! (including the dutch satelite images)

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