Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
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@lokjo I understand, but not all apps collect data or use trackers.
That's true of course, but the majority does.
Maybe in the future we'll look at an app. At the moment there's not benefit for it.
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Totally forgot about that one!
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@lokjo I like that you segment out chains to emphazie shopping local, but for general usability, can you show them with the same "category" icon as the local shop, just with the bland grey instead of the enticing orange?
I think wider uptake is likely if its clear what all your options are as a user.
If thats too far off your overall goal, what about a togglable option?
Yes, the toggle option is on the list to think about since a while.
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The filter activates when a certain brand has more then X amount of locations through countries.
Of course this is without the usual words like 'bakery', 'cinema' etc.
@lokjo okay, thank you, that probably explains it. There's local chains and high concentrations that get lost when compared to the whole country.
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Thanks for the feedback, does it work after all at not at all on these browsers?
@lokjo yes after some opening and closing of tabs. Not a huge problem for a technical person, but not easy for someone who does not understand browser permissions, maybe.
If you could detect the lack of permissions and show a warning, with a link to instructions on what to do, that may be helpful.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo Where to report issues, and when do you plan the 1.0 release?
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo Is there a replacement yet for Streetview? I love it so much... :'-(
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@lokjo okay, thank you, that probably explains it. There's local chains and high concentrations that get lost when compared to the whole country.
You're welcome. In a few months there will be a mayor update which will have a little function where you can push a little button to quickly notify of wrongly filtered or unfiltered chains/locations.
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@lokjo Where to report issues, and when do you plan the 1.0 release?
At the moment the feedback-form is closed because the to-do list is already filled up byond my recourses. Of course for urgent things you can write to the hi@ email.
Lokjo has been around for 7 years as a website, so there is no version numbering, it's not an app, not a software. There will be a mayor update in a few months which we'll -probably- publish here when it goes online.
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@lokjo Is there a replacement yet for Streetview? I love it so much... :'-(
Nope, there is no robust service for that for us to use. But there is however an open service in the build from france
You can see some more here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_street_view_services#Europe -
At the moment the feedback-form is closed because the to-do list is already filled up byond my recourses. Of course for urgent things you can write to the hi@ email.
Lokjo has been around for 7 years as a website, so there is no version numbering, it's not an app, not a software. There will be a mayor update in a few months which we'll -probably- publish here when it goes online.
@lokjo Ok. I'll follow and wait for an announcement. Had a bug at every step, so currently unusable for me.
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo there is already an in the Netherlands located an European owned nav system including maps called HERE WeGo https://wego.here.com/
Former used by Nokia and now by European car companies and yahoo.
I love it as it works flawlessly offline including public transport and time tables. -
Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo im definitely one to prefer an offline map that can be downloaded to my phone (i dont like the others and fucking hate magic earth after its recent update) but for when i have internet connectivity im really liking this, appreciate it, looking forward to whatever comes next
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo
"Alternative to google maps!"
looks inside: osm(?) with custom skin, no satellite layer."EU based alternative" in a nutshell
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Lokjo is a european substitute for googlemaps.
No cookies, no data, no nothing.
When you search locations by category (clothing shop, coffee bar, museum etc) it shows all locations at once. Except for corporations and chains, they get a grey dot.
Support us if you can by a donation here:
https://www.lokjo.com/donateOr just give it a boost. Thanks.
@lokjo Always nice to see (attributed) #OpenStreetMap data reuse!
I'm a bit confused by what you mean with "european" and "no data". Currently the website transfers every visitor's personal data to the USA, as it loads resources served by Cloudflare (maps.geoapify.com and unpkg.com).
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Nope, there is no robust service for that for us to use. But there is however an open service in the build from france
You can see some more here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_street_view_services#Europe@lokjo Merci!
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@lokjo Ok. I'll follow and wait for an announcement. Had a bug at every step, so currently unusable for me.
Which bugs are you getting?
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@lokjo there is already an in the Netherlands located an European owned nav system including maps called HERE WeGo https://wego.here.com/
Former used by Nokia and now by European car companies and yahoo.
I love it as it works flawlessly offline including public transport and time tables.Yes it's european indeed, but it's also owned by international (and american) investors. Something we don't support.
About the public transport, that's a difficult one, since it consists of thousands of local transport companies, which can only be gathered by companies who have a rediculously huge budget, like google. There's really not much we can do there, for now.
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@lokjo im definitely one to prefer an offline map that can be downloaded to my phone (i dont like the others and fucking hate magic earth after its recent update) but for when i have internet connectivity im really liking this, appreciate it, looking forward to whatever comes next
Downloadable maps might come in the future, for now we focus on internet connection, since most people have it, and it saves a whopping lot on development costs for an app.
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@lokjo
"Alternative to google maps!"
looks inside: osm(?) with custom skin, no satellite layer."EU based alternative" in a nutshell
The satelite laywer got removed since there is no non-corporate european api for that.
OSM data doesn't mean 'it's just OSM'. Lokjo is a website build completely on it's own, using different apis from different european providers. (except for US Mapbox, used for the routing, which has been on the list to be replaced soon)
