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I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

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  • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

    I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

    Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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    #163

    @johnzajac my question : how come the Iran’s internet blocage did not affect international internet communications as happened previously?

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    • clarinette@mastodon.onlineC clarinette@mastodon.online

      @johnzajac my question : how come the Iran’s internet blocage did not affect international internet communications as happened previously?

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      #164

      @clarinette

      I don't know, friend. I'm an opera singer.

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      • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

        I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

        Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

        tmcfarlane@toot.communityT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #165

        @johnzajac the timei spent napping on our data center tea room's sofa, thec16 hour shifts we pulled flashing firmware. Yeah, safe to say that I agree.

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        • F fl0und3r@defcon.social

          @Extra_Special_Carbon @mpdg @johnzajac lets focus all OSS efforts on ensuring that a company like MNT research and their products are impervious to the 2038 bug so they can rise like a Pheonix out of the ashes and usher in a kinder world

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          #166

          @fl0und3r @Extra_Special_Carbon @mpdg @johnzajac Most modern 64-bit architectures such as those used by the MNT Reform are already pretty much Y2038-ready. At worst there may be a few remaining relatively shallow problems at application levels, but it's unlikely they'll be too difficult to fix.

          The big problems are with 32-bit architectures, so not so much modern desktops/laptops/servers, but older computers and things in the more embedded direction.

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          • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

            @lmk

            If you want to teach folks about prevention vs reaction, you've got to do something about key cultural values like "harm reduction" (which assumes that harm will occur...), individualism (we don't need to worry about that because it won't affect *me*), and systemic precarity (if I make a million dollars today because we didn't solve that problem that will cost someone else a trillion tomorrow, it was worth it)

            You also have to break everyone's acculturated futility bias.

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            #167

            @johnzajac Makes sense, but quite daunting ... yet some of us do get it (none completely, self included) and see through the manipulation: I wonder what makes the difference.
            Also I think that "futility bias" you mention is an example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Conflict_of_Visions#The_constrained_vision
            Here's to turning the tide!

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            • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

              I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

              Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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              #168

              @johnzajac acid rain, too

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              • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                #169

                @johnzajac I love that at my company the one team that didn’t fix all of their Y2K bugs got a special recognition reward, with money, for failing because they fixed it quickly. That was a bit of a morale killer.

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                • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                  I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                  Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                  #170

                  @johnzajac
                  Unfortunately there is no glory in prevention.

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                  • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

                    @mrgtwentythree @johnzajac

                    Well, the liquor store sign is not *wrong*. No one born in 1900, or before can buy alcohol today. It's a moot point, as they're all dead.

                    (And I'm assuming that the sign actually said "on or before," not "after.")

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                    #171

                    @JeffGrigg @johnzajac yes, i got the details backwards. thanks 🙂

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                    • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                      I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                      Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                      #172
                      @johnzajac

                      I remember a fairly heavy weight policy advocate in Australia falling into that mistake. He didn't understand that he didn't understand and his conclusions were embarrassing.

                      Intellect is no defence against ignorance.
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                      • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                        I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                        Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                        #173

                        @johnzajac I heard someone scoff at the Y2K bug *yesterday*, but I was doing something else and couldn't explain to them exactly what you're saying, here.

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                        • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                          @human3500 @johnzajac Because we worked sixteen hour days for months on end fixing it.

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                          #174

                          @drwho @human3500 @johnzajac yeah maybe it's just me, but I see no problem with paying workers to work diligently to save us all from global digital collapse. Perhaps those who are so concerned could have a talk with me about how much landlords and CEOs are paid to sit on their asses? Because we could pay y'all for a lot more work with just one of their salaries 🤷

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