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  • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

    @Daojoan Hi everyone 😊

    Please post your top-3 RSS feeds as a reply to this comment 👍

    huguesross@mastodon.artH This user is from outside of this forum
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    huguesross@mastodon.art
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    #85

    @sorenladegaard @Daojoan Top 3's hard when you follow a lot of topics, but here are a few fun ones:
    - https://acoup.blog/feed/ Blog run by a historian, mix of deep dives into antiquity and talking about pop culture
    - https://nekonavi.jp/archives/author/kyuryuz/feed Cute Japanese webcomic about living with a cat
    - https://tasvideos.org/publications.rss A feed of every new Tool-Assisted Speedrun posted to the tasvideos site, mixed bag but some are wild lol

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    • mitsunee@ieji.deM mitsunee@ieji.de

      @Daojoan idk a lot of blogs keep begging me to sign up to newsletters to this very day

      daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      daojoan@mastodon.social
      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
      #86

      @mitsunee I think that’s partly due to the broader decline in rss use

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        @mitsunee I think that’s partly due to the broader decline in rss use

        mitsunee@ieji.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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        mitsunee@ieji.de
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #87

        @Daojoan if that decline started like 15 years ago yeah sure

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        • bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB bestcryptotwits@mastodon.social

          @Daojoan the internet has changed significantly, now it the time to take it back!

          reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #88

          @BestCryptoTwits @Daojoan

          Most of the old internet is still there, it's just been buried by the corporate web and largely ignored by smartfones.

          What we need is a way to convince our friends and family to ditch their corporate theft-and-nudge-ware and pick up the old open protocols.

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          • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
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            _r@donotsta.re
            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
            #89
            @creatures @Daojoan anything that makes requests to a server makes you trackable, just like tracker pixels e.g. in emails. And then there's of course the RSS contents themselves, which again can contain resources upon resources - images, video, audio, external CSS I believe is also supported … it's basically just a webpage without JS. your user agent and especially IP address can still be used for tracking.
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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              RSS never tracked you.
              Email never throttled you.
              Blogs never begged for dopamine.
              The old web wasn’t perfect.
              But it was yours.

              fluxxdog@app.wafrn.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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              fluxxdog@app.wafrn.net
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #90

              ♫ Welcome To The Internet
              ♫ Have a look around… ♪

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                @Andres they can have my RSS reader when they pry it from my cold dead hands

                tanega@oisaur.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                tanega@oisaur.com
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #91

                @Daojoan @Andres technofascists: Hold my beer

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  RSS never tracked you.
                  Email never throttled you.
                  Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                  The old web wasn’t perfect.
                  But it was yours.

                  derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  derickr@phpc.social
                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #92

                  @Daojoan May I use that quote in a talk?

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                  • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    _r@donotsta.re
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                    #93

                    @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social fetching an online resource means sending a request for it

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                    • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      _r@donotsta.re
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                      #94

                      @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social I guess? either way, by simply requesting a resource, they will have your IP address.

                      simply being subscribed to an RSS feed is already really good data for an ad agency, since it can correlate that IP address with some categories. So if for example you're subscribed to the rebble RSS feed, and google somehow gets access to that info (for example if they were to use google servers for the RSS service, or if they embed an image that is hosted on google servers), then you're more likely to see ads for smart watches on your home network. The RSS server will also over time be able to guess your awake hours based on when your RSS reader checks for new articles (If it automatically refreshes, e.g. hourly) and probably more that I'm not thinking of rn

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                      • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        _r@donotsta.re
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #95

                        @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social the topic of seeing ads in the first place is a different one

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                        • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          _r@donotsta.re
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                          #96

                          @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social …yes, that's the point

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                          • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            _r@donotsta.re
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                            #97

                            @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social tracking agencies are deceptively good at finding patterns in the noise

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                            • scottwhat@mastodon.socialS scottwhat@mastodon.social

                              @Daojoan I wish the major browsers would bring back built in RSS!

                              gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              gamerposter@pol.social
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                              #98

                              @scottwhat @Daojoan what if someone made alternative? like also newsfeeds but just in other format 🙂

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                              • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

                                @Daojoan Hi everyone 😊

                                Please post your top-3 RSS feeds as a reply to this comment 👍

                                gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                gamerposter@pol.social
                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #99

                                @sorenladegaard @Daojoan mostly one - wikipedia article of day 🤪

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                                • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                                  @Daojoan Even these got ruined nowadays. RSS feeds often don't have the full article text. Email contains tracking pixels and links. "Blogs" have texts behind paywalls and cookie warnings. We need the old web back.

                                  thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  thefranke@graphics.social
                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                  #100

                                  @forst @Daojoan I use two solutions for this more and more:

                                  1. Some readers like NetNewsWire have a builtin readability mode. They take the URL of the RSS entry, run it through reader mode and present it as if it were the RSS entry itself. Works fantastic even on feeds that only push a URL and no text at all.
                                  2. I coded a read-it-later service for myself that extracts entries and pushes them to a feed I subscribe to, it’s here: https://github.com/thefranke/rss-librarian

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                                  • jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    jamesbritt@mastodon.social
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                                    #101

                                    @creatures@plush.city @_r @Daojoan

                                    Some sites include essentially an entire web page in the item content, and depending on your reader images and such will be fetched, including any tracking codes.

                                    OTOH I am unaware of rss readers handling cookies, so that stops some tracking.

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                                    • jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      jamesbritt@mastodon.social
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                                      #102

                                      @creatures@plush.city @_r @Daojoan

                                      I have an otherwise great rss reader that fetches images. Mixed blessing.

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                                      • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                                        @forst @Daojoan I use two solutions for this more and more:

                                        1. Some readers like NetNewsWire have a builtin readability mode. They take the URL of the RSS entry, run it through reader mode and present it as if it were the RSS entry itself. Works fantastic even on feeds that only push a URL and no text at all.
                                        2. I coded a read-it-later service for myself that extracts entries and pushes them to a feed I subscribe to, it’s here: https://github.com/thefranke/rss-librarian

                                        forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        forst@mastodon.social
                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                        #103

                                        @thefranke @Daojoan Didn't know about (1), that's brilliant, thanks!

                                        I made some custom RSS exporters for myself as well for sites that don't have a feed 😆

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          RSS never tracked you.
                                          Email never throttled you.
                                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                          But it was yours.

                                          tusooa@kazv.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          tusooa@kazv.moe
                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #104
                                          @Daojoan rss can be injected tracking and so can emails (e.g. via a tracking image). outlook and gmail are really hostile to self-hosted email services. blogs can have ads and other anti-features.
                                          at the very end, you don't really own domains and IPs; big companies rent them to you.

                                          what matters is never what kind of tech you use, but rather how you use it and why.
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