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  • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _r@donotsta.re
    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #94

    @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social I guess? either way, by simply requesting a resource, they will have your IP address.

    simply being subscribed to an RSS feed is already really good data for an ad agency, since it can correlate that IP address with some categories. So if for example you're subscribed to the rebble RSS feed, and google somehow gets access to that info (for example if they were to use google servers for the RSS service, or if they embed an image that is hosted on google servers), then you're more likely to see ads for smart watches on your home network. The RSS server will also over time be able to guess your awake hours based on when your RSS reader checks for new articles (If it automatically refreshes, e.g. hourly) and probably more that I'm not thinking of rn

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    • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
      _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
      _r@donotsta.re
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      #95

      @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social the topic of seeing ads in the first place is a different one

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      • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
        _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
        _r@donotsta.re
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #96

        @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social …yes, that's the point

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        • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
          _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
          _r@donotsta.re
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
          #97

          @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social tracking agencies are deceptively good at finding patterns in the noise

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          • scottwhat@mastodon.socialS scottwhat@mastodon.social

            @Daojoan I wish the major browsers would bring back built in RSS!

            gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
            gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
            gamerposter@pol.social
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            #98

            @scottwhat @Daojoan what if someone made alternative? like also newsfeeds but just in other format 🙂

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            • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

              @Daojoan Hi everyone 😊

              Please post your top-3 RSS feeds as a reply to this comment 👍

              gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              gamerposter@pol.social
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #99

              @sorenladegaard @Daojoan mostly one - wikipedia article of day 🤪

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              • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                @Daojoan Even these got ruined nowadays. RSS feeds often don't have the full article text. Email contains tracking pixels and links. "Blogs" have texts behind paywalls and cookie warnings. We need the old web back.

                thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                thefranke@graphics.social
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #100

                @forst @Daojoan I use two solutions for this more and more:

                1. Some readers like NetNewsWire have a builtin readability mode. They take the URL of the RSS entry, run it through reader mode and present it as if it were the RSS entry itself. Works fantastic even on feeds that only push a URL and no text at all.
                2. I coded a read-it-later service for myself that extracts entries and pushes them to a feed I subscribe to, it’s here: https://github.com/thefranke/rss-librarian

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                • jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jamesbritt@mastodon.social
                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #101

                  @creatures@plush.city @_r @Daojoan

                  Some sites include essentially an entire web page in the item content, and depending on your reader images and such will be fetched, including any tracking codes.

                  OTOH I am unaware of rss readers handling cookies, so that stops some tracking.

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                  • jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jamesbritt@mastodon.social
                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                    #102

                    @creatures@plush.city @_r @Daojoan

                    I have an otherwise great rss reader that fetches images. Mixed blessing.

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                    • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                      @forst @Daojoan I use two solutions for this more and more:

                      1. Some readers like NetNewsWire have a builtin readability mode. They take the URL of the RSS entry, run it through reader mode and present it as if it were the RSS entry itself. Works fantastic even on feeds that only push a URL and no text at all.
                      2. I coded a read-it-later service for myself that extracts entries and pushes them to a feed I subscribe to, it’s here: https://github.com/thefranke/rss-librarian

                      forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                      forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                      forst@mastodon.social
                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                      #103

                      @thefranke @Daojoan Didn't know about (1), that's brilliant, thanks!

                      I made some custom RSS exporters for myself as well for sites that don't have a feed 😆

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        RSS never tracked you.
                        Email never throttled you.
                        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                        The old web wasn’t perfect.
                        But it was yours.

                        tusooa@kazv.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
                        tusooa@kazv.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
                        tusooa@kazv.moe
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #104
                        @Daojoan rss can be injected tracking and so can emails (e.g. via a tracking image). outlook and gmail are really hostile to self-hosted email services. blogs can have ads and other anti-features.
                        at the very end, you don't really own domains and IPs; big companies rent them to you.

                        what matters is never what kind of tech you use, but rather how you use it and why.
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                        • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                          @thefranke @Daojoan Didn't know about (1), that's brilliant, thanks!

                          I made some custom RSS exporters for myself as well for sites that don't have a feed 😆

                          thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          thefranke@graphics.social
                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #105

                          @forst @Daojoan On Android FeedMe does the same, you can even set it as a default for selected feeds in your subscriptions. Some of them are also quite good a circumventing paywalls

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                          • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                            @thefranke @Daojoan Didn't know about (1), that's brilliant, thanks!

                            I made some custom RSS exporters for myself as well for sites that don't have a feed 😆

                            thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                            thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                            thefranke@graphics.social
                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #106

                            @forst @Daojoan are those extractors custom? Or do you contribute those to RSS-Bridge or similar projects?

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                            • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                              @forst @Daojoan On Android FeedMe does the same, you can even set it as a default for selected feeds in your subscriptions. Some of them are also quite good a circumventing paywalls

                              forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                              forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                              forst@mastodon.social
                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                              #107

                              @thefranke @Daojoan I use NetNewsWire, and it also allows this per-feed, as it turned out. Immediately enabled on the offenders.

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                              • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                                @forst @Daojoan are those extractors custom? Or do you contribute those to RSS-Bridge or similar projects?

                                forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                                forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                                forst@mastodon.social
                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #108

                                @thefranke @Daojoan A custom Python thing, I write in what I'm familiar with. But I'm open to porting it if it can benefit more people 😆

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  RSS never tracked you.
                                  Email never throttled you.
                                  Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                  The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                  But it was yours.

                                  dave@basilisk.galleryD This user is from outside of this forum
                                  dave@basilisk.galleryD This user is from outside of this forum
                                  dave@basilisk.gallery
                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                  #109

                                  @Daojoan https://basilisk.gallery/@dave/114562977927631510

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                                  • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                                    @thefranke @Daojoan A custom Python thing, I write in what I'm familiar with. But I'm open to porting it if it can benefit more people 😆

                                    thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    thefranke@graphics.social
                                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                    #110

                                    @forst @Daojoan Are you familiar with this project? https://rss-bridge.org

                                    Basically a PHP framework where you can easily write bridges that scrape a webpage and turn them into a feed, caching and everything else is already managed by the framework.

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                                    • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                                      @forst @Daojoan Are you familiar with this project? https://rss-bridge.org

                                      Basically a PHP framework where you can easily write bridges that scrape a webpage and turn them into a feed, caching and everything else is already managed by the framework.

                                      forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      forst@mastodon.social
                                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                      #111

                                      @thefranke @Daojoan Wasn't familiar with it until now, thank you for sharing!
                                      Don't know how interested they would be in a plugin for a very local website, but could be a fun little project 😆

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                                      • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                                        @thefranke @Daojoan Wasn't familiar with it until now, thank you for sharing!
                                        Don't know how interested they would be in a plugin for a very local website, but could be a fun little project 😆

                                        thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        thefranke@graphics.social
                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                        #112

                                        @forst @Daojoan oh they do have lots of those, and if not its super easy to self-host as well (got a bunch for mini websites and customized bridges myself).

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          RSS never tracked you.
                                          Email never throttled you.
                                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                          But it was yours.

                                          jjkrawczyk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          jjkrawczyk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          jjkrawczyk@mastodon.social
                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #113

                                          @Daojoan
                                          Don’t think I ever got spam on USENET.

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