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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    RSS never tracked you.
    Email never throttled you.
    Blogs never begged for dopamine.
    The old web wasn’t perfect.
    But it was yours.

    _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    _r@donotsta.re
    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #81

    @Daojoan@mastodon.social pretty sure RSS did and does track you, actually… maybe not on hobby sites, but remember that not only those support RSS. it's not as advertised anymore, but even large sites like youtube still support it.

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      RSS never tracked you.
      Email never throttled you.
      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
      The old web wasn’t perfect.
      But it was yours.

      nyovaya@transfem.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
      nyovaya@transfem.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
      nyovaya@transfem.social
      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
      #82

      @Daojoan@mastodon.social And IRC never asked for a boost or for nitro

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        RSS never tracked you.
        Email never throttled you.
        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
        The old web wasn’t perfect.
        But it was yours.

        mitsunee@ieji.deM This user is from outside of this forum
        mitsunee@ieji.deM This user is from outside of this forum
        mitsunee@ieji.de
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #83

        @Daojoan idk a lot of blogs keep begging me to sign up to newsletters to this very day

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          RSS never tracked you.
          Email never throttled you.
          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
          The old web wasn’t perfect.
          But it was yours.

          unlucio@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
          unlucio@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
          unlucio@mastodon.social
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
          #84

          @Daojoan I used to be surprised by the internet looking immune to the hype cycle.
          In recent years, I realized we have just been on the 1st slope and we're approaching the "Peak of inflated expectations".
          Once it's a repository of mostly fake generated stuff, we'll quickly reach the "Trough of disillusionment".
          Imho, we're not far off.

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          • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

            @Daojoan Hi everyone 😊

            Please post your top-3 RSS feeds as a reply to this comment 👍

            huguesross@mastodon.artH This user is from outside of this forum
            huguesross@mastodon.artH This user is from outside of this forum
            huguesross@mastodon.art
            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
            #85

            @sorenladegaard @Daojoan Top 3's hard when you follow a lot of topics, but here are a few fun ones:
            - https://acoup.blog/feed/ Blog run by a historian, mix of deep dives into antiquity and talking about pop culture
            - https://nekonavi.jp/archives/author/kyuryuz/feed Cute Japanese webcomic about living with a cat
            - https://tasvideos.org/publications.rss A feed of every new Tool-Assisted Speedrun posted to the tasvideos site, mixed bag but some are wild lol

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            • mitsunee@ieji.deM mitsunee@ieji.de

              @Daojoan idk a lot of blogs keep begging me to sign up to newsletters to this very day

              daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
              daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
              daojoan@mastodon.social
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #86

              @mitsunee I think that’s partly due to the broader decline in rss use

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                @mitsunee I think that’s partly due to the broader decline in rss use

                mitsunee@ieji.deM This user is from outside of this forum
                mitsunee@ieji.deM This user is from outside of this forum
                mitsunee@ieji.de
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #87

                @Daojoan if that decline started like 15 years ago yeah sure

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                • bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB bestcryptotwits@mastodon.social

                  @Daojoan the internet has changed significantly, now it the time to take it back!

                  reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                  reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                  reggiehere@mastodon.social
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                  #88

                  @BestCryptoTwits @Daojoan

                  Most of the old internet is still there, it's just been buried by the corporate web and largely ignored by smartfones.

                  What we need is a way to convince our friends and family to ditch their corporate theft-and-nudge-ware and pick up the old open protocols.

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                  • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                    _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                    _r@donotsta.re
                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                    #89
                    @creatures @Daojoan anything that makes requests to a server makes you trackable, just like tracker pixels e.g. in emails. And then there's of course the RSS contents themselves, which again can contain resources upon resources - images, video, audio, external CSS I believe is also supported … it's basically just a webpage without JS. your user agent and especially IP address can still be used for tracking.
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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      RSS never tracked you.
                      Email never throttled you.
                      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                      The old web wasn’t perfect.
                      But it was yours.

                      fluxxdog@app.wafrn.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                      fluxxdog@app.wafrn.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                      fluxxdog@app.wafrn.net
                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                      #90

                      ♫ Welcome To The Internet
                      ♫ Have a look around… ♪

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        @Andres they can have my RSS reader when they pry it from my cold dead hands

                        tanega@oisaur.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        tanega@oisaur.com
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #91

                        @Daojoan @Andres technofascists: Hold my beer

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          RSS never tracked you.
                          Email never throttled you.
                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                          But it was yours.

                          derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                          derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                          derickr@phpc.social
                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #92

                          @Daojoan May I use that quote in a talk?

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                          • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                            _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                            _r@donotsta.re
                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #93

                            @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social fetching an online resource means sending a request for it

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                            • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                              _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                              _r@donotsta.re
                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                              #94

                              @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social I guess? either way, by simply requesting a resource, they will have your IP address.

                              simply being subscribed to an RSS feed is already really good data for an ad agency, since it can correlate that IP address with some categories. So if for example you're subscribed to the rebble RSS feed, and google somehow gets access to that info (for example if they were to use google servers for the RSS service, or if they embed an image that is hosted on google servers), then you're more likely to see ads for smart watches on your home network. The RSS server will also over time be able to guess your awake hours based on when your RSS reader checks for new articles (If it automatically refreshes, e.g. hourly) and probably more that I'm not thinking of rn

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                              • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                _r@donotsta.re
                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #95

                                @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social the topic of seeing ads in the first place is a different one

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                                • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  _r@donotsta.re
                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                  #96

                                  @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social …yes, that's the point

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                                  • _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    _r@donotsta.re_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    _r@donotsta.re
                                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                    #97

                                    @creatures@plush.city @Daojoan@mastodon.social tracking agencies are deceptively good at finding patterns in the noise

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                                    • scottwhat@mastodon.socialS scottwhat@mastodon.social

                                      @Daojoan I wish the major browsers would bring back built in RSS!

                                      gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      gamerposter@pol.social
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                                      #98

                                      @scottwhat @Daojoan what if someone made alternative? like also newsfeeds but just in other format 🙂

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                                      • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @Daojoan Hi everyone 😊

                                        Please post your top-3 RSS feeds as a reply to this comment 👍

                                        gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        gamerposter@pol.social
                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                        #99

                                        @sorenladegaard @Daojoan mostly one - wikipedia article of day 🤪

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                                        • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                                          @Daojoan Even these got ruined nowadays. RSS feeds often don't have the full article text. Email contains tracking pixels and links. "Blogs" have texts behind paywalls and cookie warnings. We need the old web back.

                                          thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          thefranke@graphics.social
                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #100

                                          @forst @Daojoan I use two solutions for this more and more:

                                          1. Some readers like NetNewsWire have a builtin readability mode. They take the URL of the RSS entry, run it through reader mode and present it as if it were the RSS entry itself. Works fantastic even on feeds that only push a URL and no text at all.
                                          2. I coded a read-it-later service for myself that extracts entries and pushes them to a feed I subscribe to, it’s here: https://github.com/thefranke/rss-librarian

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