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Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

    Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

    In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

    Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

    You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

    "Journalism" today

    tizianomattei@poliverso.orgT ticho@mas.toT streetcoder@mastodon.socialS laxsill@social.spejset.orgL kitsunevixi@sakurajima.socialK 20 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

      Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

      In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

      Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

      You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

      "Journalism" today

      tizianomattei@poliverso.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @_elena
      This is the kind of things that make me furious as well! 😡😡😡

      @Gargron @Mastodon @renchap

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

        Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

        In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

        Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

        You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

        "Journalism" today

        ticho@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @_elena I'm surprised this kind of stuff even reaches mainstream press, normally they try to ignore any "computer-stuff" not backed by large corporations.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

          Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

          In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

          Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

          You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

          "Journalism" today

          streetcoder@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @_elena @Gargron WTF how dumb could they be or is it on purpose with an agenda and framing fake news.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

            Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

            In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

            Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

            You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

            "Journalism" today

            laxsill@social.spejset.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @_elena quit his own network? From what I can tell from following @Gargron , he seems both active in the platform and for the mastodon movement, a bit of a libelous statement

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

              Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

              In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

              Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

              You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

              "Journalism" today

              kitsunevixi@sakurajima.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @Gargron@mastodon.social Lawyer up. A claim like that can cause a lot of damage to the reputation of your hard work.

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                "Journalism" today

                oblomov@sociale.networkO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @_elena time to flood the article with comments about it.

                @Gargron

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                • kitsunevixi@sakurajima.socialK kitsunevixi@sakurajima.social

                  @Gargron@mastodon.social Lawyer up. A claim like that can cause a lot of damage to the reputation of your hard work.

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @KitsuneVixi indeed

                  The chef's kiss is that according to LinkedIn, the author of the article has been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published numerous books.

                  This is not a 19-year-old intern casually writing about tech: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/françois-saltiel-42725334

                  @Gargron

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                    Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                    In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                    Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                    You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                    "Journalism" today

                    sloanlance@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @_elena @Gargron
                    My favorite French press…

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                    • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

                      @_elena I'm surprised this kind of stuff even reaches mainstream press, normally they try to ignore any "computer-stuff" not backed by large corporations.

                      eowyn@pouet.chapril.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
                      eowyn@pouet.chapril.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @ticho @_elena they're promoting w in the article so they need to slander mastodon.

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                      • laxsill@social.spejset.orgL laxsill@social.spejset.org

                        @_elena quit his own network? From what I can tell from following @Gargron , he seems both active in the platform and for the mastodon movement, a bit of a libelous statement

                        aaronmccollum@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @laxsill @_elena Yeah he stepped down from his job position but certainly didn’t quit Mastodon altogether. That was either lazy reporting or a poor interpretation of Eugene’s blog post. But he’s definitely still around.

                        laxsill@social.spejset.orgL naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                        • aaronmccollum@fosstodon.orgA aaronmccollum@fosstodon.org

                          @laxsill @_elena Yeah he stepped down from his job position but certainly didn’t quit Mastodon altogether. That was either lazy reporting or a poor interpretation of Eugene’s blog post. But he’s definitely still around.

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                          #12

                          @aaronmccollum @_elena tbh it doesn't feel lazy, it feels like a tendentious way to phrase it to give the impression of conflict

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                            Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                            In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                            Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                            You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                            "Journalism" today

                            clintruin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @_elena @Gargron
                            "JoURnaliSM"

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              @KitsuneVixi indeed

                              The chef's kiss is that according to LinkedIn, the author of the article has been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published numerous books.

                              This is not a 19-year-old intern casually writing about tech: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/françois-saltiel-42725334

                              @Gargron

                              joel@gts.tumfatig.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @_elena that’s why "old" and "wise" are two different words 😉

                              Cc: @KitsuneVixi @Gargron

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                                Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                                In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                                Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                                You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                                "Journalism" today

                                ramsey@phpc.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @_elena @benroyce @Gargron They could have replaced “Eugen” with “Jack” and made a true statement because Jack did quit his own network (Bluesky) over the behavior of its users.

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                                • bilchi@nrw.socialB bilchi@nrw.social shared this topic
                                • ramsey@phpc.socialR ramsey@phpc.social

                                  @_elena @benroyce @Gargron They could have replaced “Eugen” with “Jack” and made a true statement because Jack did quit his own network (Bluesky) over the behavior of its users.

                                  paninid@mastodon.worldP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @ramsey @_elena @benroyce @Gargron

                                  Who says trollsmanship has no pro-social value?

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                                    Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                                    In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                                    Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                                    You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                                    "Journalism" today

                                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @_elena @Gargron

                                    yup

                                    #corporate "#journalism"

                                    we are on #mastodon/ #fediverse because the profit motive in corporate #socialMedia means privacy defilement, free reign for bigotry/ ignorance, and #algorithm manipulation by #plutocracy agendas

                                    the same applies to the #news #media:

                                    #ventureCapital takes over dying traditional media outlets and puts right wing goons in the managing editor positions

                                    we have nonprofit news (#NPR, #ProPublica, #TheGuardian, etc)

                                    trust them

                                    all else: beware

                                    _elena@mastodon.social_ atlovato@mastodon.socialA stuartb@social.teamb.spaceS 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @_elena @Gargron

                                      yup

                                      #corporate "#journalism"

                                      we are on #mastodon/ #fediverse because the profit motive in corporate #socialMedia means privacy defilement, free reign for bigotry/ ignorance, and #algorithm manipulation by #plutocracy agendas

                                      the same applies to the #news #media:

                                      #ventureCapital takes over dying traditional media outlets and puts right wing goons in the managing editor positions

                                      we have nonprofit news (#NPR, #ProPublica, #TheGuardian, etc)

                                      trust them

                                      all else: beware

                                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @benroyce perfectly said Ben!!! 🙌

                                      I just found a video of the CEO of W Social at Davos literally going: "10 years ago we were saying that data is the new oil, but right now we say HIGH QUALITY data is the new oil."

                                      To me it kind of reads like a confession / motivating force behind (1) creating W Social (2) using AT Proto for their "European alternative to X." Ouf.

                                      atlovato@mastodon.socialA deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffeeD zbrando@social.vivaldi.netZ 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                                        Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                                        In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                                        Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                                        You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                                        "Journalism" today

                                        naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @_elena I didn't listen to it, only read the text. I wouldn't judge all journalists based on one example.
                                        He states: "Tout cela est très marketing pour W, qui saisit une fenêtre d’opportunité" and while talking about Zeiter's great experience in marketing and publicity he nails the big problem of Mastodon.

                                        Mastodon has neither the money nor the human power for big lobbyism/marketing.
                                        I know, Mastodon fans don't like to hear it but it's a fact. And the size of a network depends on

                                        @Gargron

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                                        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                          @_elena I didn't listen to it, only read the text. I wouldn't judge all journalists based on one example.
                                          He states: "Tout cela est très marketing pour W, qui saisit une fenêtre d’opportunité" and while talking about Zeiter's great experience in marketing and publicity he nails the big problem of Mastodon.

                                          Mastodon has neither the money nor the human power for big lobbyism/marketing.
                                          I know, Mastodon fans don't like to hear it but it's a fact. And the size of a network depends on

                                          @Gargron

                                          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @_elena how many politicians, organisations and journalists will join - because then the masses will join. If we want that is another question.

                                          So yes, it's just one of these "quick" broadcast contributions where an author doesn't interview people directly (or did he?) and graps the informations on the desk. And these were definitively the press release/publicity of Zeiter ...

                                          @Gargron

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