Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

eowyn@pouet.chapril.org

@ticho @_elena they're promoting w in the article so they need to slander mastodon.

aaronmccollum@fosstodon.org

@laxsill @_elena Yeah he stepped down from his job position but certainly didn’t quit Mastodon altogether. That was either lazy reporting or a poor interpretation of Eugene’s blog post. But he’s definitely still around.

laxsill@social.spejset.org

@aaronmccollum @_elena tbh it doesn't feel lazy, it feels like a tendentious way to phrase it to give the impression of conflict

clintruin@mastodon.social

@_elena @Gargron
"JoURnaliSM"

joel@gts.tumfatig.net

@_elena that’s why "old" and "wise" are two different words

Cc: @KitsuneVixi @Gargron

ramsey@phpc.social

@_elena @benroyce @Gargron They could have replaced “Eugen” with “Jack” and made a true statement because Jack did quit his own network (Bluesky) over the behavior of its users.

paninid@mastodon.world

@ramsey @_elena @benroyce @Gargron

Who says trollsmanship has no pro-social value?

benroyce@mastodon.social

@_elena @Gargron

yup

#corporate "#journalism"

we are on #mastodon/ #fediverse because the profit motive in corporate #socialMedia means privacy defilement, free reign for bigotry/ ignorance, and #algorithm manipulation by #plutocracy agendas

the same applies to the #news #media:

#ventureCapital takes over dying traditional media outlets and puts right wing goons in the managing editor positions

we have nonprofit news (#NPR, #ProPublica, #TheGuardian, etc)

trust them

all else: beware

_elena@mastodon.social

@benroyce perfectly said Ben!!!

I just found a video of the CEO of W Social at Davos literally going: "10 years ago we were saying that data is the new oil, but right now we say HIGH QUALITY data is the new oil."

To me it kind of reads like a confession / motivating force behind (1) creating W Social (2) using AT Proto for their "European alternative to X." Ouf.

naturemc@mastodon.online

@_elena I didn't listen to it, only read the text. I wouldn't judge all journalists based on one example.
He states: "Tout cela est très marketing pour W, qui saisit une fenêtre d’opportunité" and while talking about Zeiter's great experience in marketing and publicity he nails the big problem of Mastodon.

Mastodon has neither the money nor the human power for big lobbyism/marketing.
I know, Mastodon fans don't like to hear it but it's a fact. And the size of a network depends on

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naturemc@mastodon.online

@_elena how many politicians, organisations and journalists will join - because then the masses will join. If we want that is another question.

So yes, it's just one of these "quick" broadcast contributions where an author doesn't interview people directly (or did he?) and graps the informations on the desk. And these were definitively the press release/publicity of Zeiter ...

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naturemc@mastodon.online

@aaronmccollum That's my impression too: it was a quick production because Zeiter's press release was on the table, so they quickly opened a blog page for a second structure, took a look, wrote something, and that was it.

These three-minute pieces are done under enormous time pressure. And very few listeners remember them afterwards.

@laxsill @_elena

atlovato@mastodon.social

@_elena @benroyce

atlovato@mastodon.social

@benroyce @_elena @Gargron

deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffee

@_elena That CEO used to be Chief Privacy Officer at eBay.. lol. Goes to tell what shape eBay's privacy is in, and what to expect from that BS project.

stuartb@social.teamb.space

@benroyce @_elena @Gargron
I don't even trust The Guardian - too many of their "journalists" are trust fund babies who can't get jobs doing anything else, who regard poverty as a hypothetical rather than something that too many people know from experience, and are just as ready to throw trans folk under the bus as their right wing counterparts.

mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

@_elena

it is a fork of Bluesky

Ah! Thanks! I was wondering wtf this “W Social” is supposed to be, and a quick duckduckgo left open more questions than it solved…

zbrando@social.vivaldi.net

@_elena @benroyce We don't need another silo...

moskitokoenig@dizl.de

@_elena @Gargron Wow, this, well, article is... something. In German jurisprudence, I guess this would most likely fall under “false factual claims” and can have legal consequences for the author. As it is not “only” directed against one person, but against the network as a whole and can have very negative consequences, I would at least consider taking legal actions against this person.
The crucial point is: Is this false factual claim being claimed as fact, or is it being expressed as opinion?

benroyce@mastodon.social

@stuartb @_elena @Gargron

i remember that

for anyone not familiar with The Guardian's betrayal of trans rights:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/02/guardian-editorial-response-transgender-rights-uk

all i have to say in return is that with nonprofit media there is a chance for correction. while for-profit news media, they take over the managing editor positions with right wing venture capital and so trans rights will never be honored, will be always attacked

my point is in general about for-profit vs nonprofit, not a specific defense of The Guardian

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Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.