what a fucking shitshow.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter So, there's this guy that built a machine for people to avoid using their brains, and he's now telling people to use their brains? Did I get this right?
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter luckily, it’s not exactly an essential tool
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Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.
@peter @wendynather ageism is pretty cool. I’m sure this isn’t the fruit of the same poisoned corporate tree that caused companies to “adopt” open source literally because it was free
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter
Why don't he just create a bunch of AI Agent Reviewer to support him?
It's so easy!/s
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@peter Yeah, I really don’t understand it. I just spent my 40s writing code too, and now at the end of them I’m… writing code, because I never lost it. Just published a new thing yesterday, wrote it in C mostly without even autocomplete since I largely used BBEdit rather than Xcode.
I would be absolutely mortified if I had to use an LLM to be productive, and I would find admitting to using one deeply, deeply shameful.
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Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.
@peter I spent my childhood to mid-30s writing code, then a decade in teaching, then back to writing code and LLMs are *why* I'm now burning out.
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@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich I remember reading about that.
It mostly seemed to come down to them underestimating how much two things had changed in the intervening years:- how badly their reflexes had slowed down, and
- how wildly the power and agility of sportsbikes had improved (the Fireblade was a legit game-changer).
It may have been about feeling young again, but it seems more often to have been that they feel they can pick it up again.
Me? I just never had kids
I see a common factor, in any case: seriously underestimating just how abruptly and how badly it can get out of hand.
@KatS @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich well back in the day in the UK you could pass your motorcycle test (as I did) on a 12hp CB125 and that still qualifies me today (50 years later) to ride any motorcycle whatever its size or capacity. Needless so say these days I don't ride any motorcycle.
Also back in those days I used to program in Fortran, PL/1 and APl. These days I never try anything harder than writing bash scripts by hand and would never touch an LLM with a bargepole.
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what a fucking shitshow.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter I abso-f-cking-lutely LOVE that he doesn't even remotely entertain the idea of using ClawdBot to check for malicious skills. It's a wondrous machine that can do anything as long as it is irrelevant and unsafe.
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what a fucking shitshow.
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BUT THE TECHBROS ARE MAKING MONEY, THEIR DASHBOARDS LOOK GOOD, THEIR SPREADSHEETS ARE GREEN -
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what a fucking shitshow.
My rule for any new computer thing with a social aspect is: If they don't have any details on how they are going to moderate it, just skip it.
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Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.
@peter ageism rocks, am I right?
Shame the breathless, uncritical, runaway ambition not some roughly-drawn caricature attached to age.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter This is the tech-bro mindset in a nutshell. "I made a cool thing that lets both well-intentioned and malicious people do things, and there's nothing I can do about the latter."
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Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.
@peter just wanted to say, as someone in that latter age range, that the people calling this ageist are off the mark; i don't feel tagged by this at all, i avoided management and still make stuff and i *do* move slower than i did in my 20s/30s but i have dramatically better discernment and ability to spot bad directions, and it's not the least bit ageist to criticize people who are desperately conforming to ageist/classist notions of productivity by using LLMs etc bc their ideology sucks.
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@peter like all divorced dads, they were too self absorbed to notice that their wife (or QA department or line manager or PM) was doing all the hard work to protect them and their families from their own bad decisions
@flyingsaceur @peter now they ride with this hot chick Claude(ia) in their vibe codecabrio into the sunset
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Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.
@peter wait, no, he and I are about the same age and I’m not middle-age — ah, shit.
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Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.
@peter I burned out early 20s, so if I become like that in 10 years please someone stop me
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what a fucking shitshow.
Wow, "there isn't a simple solution to this" is not the conclusion I reached. I immediately thought of a very simple solution.
